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[Maihara Matsuge] Boku ga Kanojo de Kanojo ga Boku de | I am her and she is me (Seifuku Shojo Collection) [English] [some body new] [Digital]

[舞原マツゲ] 僕が彼女で彼女が僕で (制服処女これくしょん) [英訳] [DL版]

Manga
Posted:2019-07-16 01:10
Parent:None
Visible:Yes
Language:English  TR
File Size:38.01 MiB
Length:21 pages
Favorited:907 times
Rating:
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Average: 4.39

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Posted on 19 July 2019, 09:41 by:   Siperi    PM
Score +146
Did really two people proofread this? I have my doubts considering the amount of errors.

Page 1, panel 4 - it should be "its adult corner" (no apostrophe).
Page 2, panel 4 - it should be "didn't say anything today" (in past simple tense did or didn't is followed by a verb in base form and not past form).
Page 4, panel 3/4 - it should be "the two of them" (not "the both of them").
Page 11, panel 4 - it should be "while in my body".
Page 11, panel 6 - it should be "then think of a way".
Page 13, panel 4 - it should be "each other's virginity".
Page 13, panel 4 - it should be "if you didn't want this" (same error as on page 2).
Page 13, panel 5 - it should be "got like this on its own" (same error as on page 1).
Page 15, panel 1 - it should be "does my cunt feel that good?" (verbs in does/doesn't questions don't have an s at the end).
Page 15, panel 1 - it should be "on its own" (no apostrophe, same error again).
Page 18, panel 2 - it should be "adapted to its form" (the apostrophe again).

There are also some errors with commas, but they're minor compared to the examples above.

Edit:
@Psychotic Pastry: I considered "both of them" as an alternative, but in my opinion "the two of them" fits better the flow of the narration.
Last edited on 19 July 2019, 13:11.
Posted on 19 July 2019, 10:11 by:   aleden    PM
Score +164
Yeah honestly, if you have two proofers and you still have this many small errors all over the place, you could probably drop both and just find some native english speaker at your local convenience store and they'd probably still do a better job.

All jokes aside, the proofers need to brush up or if they're native speakers, be a little more attentive reading the script. Some errors here and there with tenses and misplaced apostrophes happen to all of us from time to time, but 12+ errors in one thing should probably be cleaned up better. That said, I thought the editing was good and the typesetting was fine, and the manga itself was fantastic, so thanks for showcasing it for us.
Posted on 19 July 2019, 12:35 by:   Psychotic Pastry    PM
Score +12
@Siperi

Agreed for the most part, but "the both of them" is grammatically accurate in informal English. It would've been better if "the" had been removed, though.

Edit: I can see that, but "two of them" is already used on the page. Maybe it should've been phrased in an entirely different way to both flow and avoid redundancy.
Last edited on 19 July 2019, 19:08.
Posted on 19 July 2019, 13:15 by:   ngedh    PM
Score +20
Some more errors:

Page 7, panel 8, should be "Did you come just to see my panties?"
Page 20, panel 3, should be "Did we just..." "swap again?"

(This kind of tense error in the main verb of constructions with auxiliaries seems to be extremely common among second-language speakers of English. I see it in translations all the time.)

Also, Siperi's correction for page 18 has a typo, it should be "adapted" (as it is in the comic) not "adopted".
Posted on 19 July 2019, 14:25 by:   xaelath    PM
Score +18
Instead called body swap, cum swap would be the better summary of this doujin.
Posted on 19 July 2019, 14:33 by:   danielwain    PM
Score +68
Please note that gender bender and body swap are not the same. Only tag body swap, unless the story contains both in different segments.

Edit: Dunno why so many people downvote this comment, but it's in the tag definition of both gender bender and body swap.
Last edited on 19 July 2019, 23:38.
Posted on 20 July 2019, 02:19 by:   prosldo    PM
Score +13
Tag definitions need to be changed. I'd wager most people consider body swapping between two people of different sexes as gender bender.
Posted on 20 July 2019, 05:39 by:   Xerodusk    PM
Score +95
Only total newbies to the concept of hyperspecific hentai fetishes would consider that.
[Also note by definition "body swap" being in the "misc" namespace makes it clear that it's between different genders.]

Basically, the same newbies to the internet in general who would downvote someone for trying to explain the actual rules of the website they are on, and not even in a way that could be considered rude.
Posted on 20 July 2019, 07:54 by:   krautbernd    PM
Score +53
FFS, do you people even bother to read the definitions before tagging?

>gender bender
>Note: Should not be confused with body swap or crossdressing.

>body swap
>Note: Should not be tagged as gender bender even if the person swaps with someone of a different gender.
Posted on 20 July 2019, 10:42 by:   Psychotic Pastry    PM
Score +23
That body swapping between different sexes doesn't at least IMPLY gender bender is utterly ludicrous. I absolutely agree that it should be tagged per site rules, but until someone can explain to me why "I turned into a girl, now I like dick" is fundamentally different from "I traded bodies with a girl, now I like dick", I'm still going to think it's silly and pedantic.
Posted on 20 July 2019, 19:04 by:   danielwain    PM
Score +45
Would you consider tags like female:"females only" obsolete as well then? I mean, technically, it's totally like female:yuri, right? The thing is, no, it isn't. As for why, because people have rather specific fetishes. Some people get a boner for yuri even if there's a gangbang with dudes 3 pages later or they're bi, others shrivel up as soon as there's a dick somewhere in the gallery. Same with body swap and gender bender. There is overlap, but it's better for all parties if the tags are relatively specific. You don't want to sift through 50 galleries in search of a specific fetish because someone thought "Hey, sounds the same to me, so everyone that gets off to one gets off to the other". For body swap vs gender bender specifically, it can have mental implications that would be uncomfortable for some people.

Of course it varies where one would draw the line as to what tags might be obsolete or too specific and that can be discussed, but as long as the definition specifically states that both should NOT be tagged at the same time (unless present in different instances, e.g. anthologies and such), that's that, tag it accordingly unless the definition is changed.
Posted on 21 July 2019, 00:52 by:   Psychotic Pastry    PM
Score +22
The points you're making are exactly WHY I think it's odd to define them as always distinct no matter what, though. What happens when someone's fetish is body swapping between two people of the same sex? When gender bender isn't tagged to the material that has opposite sex swaps, they have to wade through 50 galleries of what they don't want to find what they do.
Posted on 21 July 2019, 01:06 by:   yggg    PM
Score +26
First of all, gender_bender has nothing to do with mental changes. While they might occur, it is not implied from the tag at all. Second, this is more akin to not tagging Yuri in a doujin if it's already marked as Females_only. There are zero downsides of tagging both and not doing so will only reduce visibility for people who search on the excluded tag.

Edit: Actually looked up what was written on the tag description page and the current system is a pretty good one. Everything under misc:body swap is gender bender and if it's in-sex its tagged under male and female respectively.
Last edited on 21 July 2019, 01:45.
Posted on 21 July 2019, 05:16 by:   Psychotic Pastry    PM
Score +13
Well, I guess that answers my concerns. It may be unintuitive and overly complicated from my position, but it's logical.
Posted on 21 July 2019, 09:24 by:   danielwain    PM
Score +25
You don't have to like the rules or agree with them on everything. Some of them will seem nonsensical to you, just like others will seem nonsensical to me and another set entirely to the next person while those that made no sense to you or me might make sense to them. However, you should still tag according to the rules because otherwise no one will find anything anymore, even if they use the "correct terms", according to tag definitions. I'm glad we can agree on that. We all make mistakes, no one is perfect. However, it's best if we can just admit that we are wrong when it comes to the rules when we are, correct it and move on with our lives. If you aren't satisfied with the way tagging works, there are proper ways to try and change it or get a proper explanation as to why something is the way it is. General tag discussions are not what the comment section is for, you should only discuss whether a tag applies to this or doesn't. Move it to the forum if you want to discuss the gender bender/body swap debate in detail. They could most likely explain it far better than I would, I'm not an expert on tags.

What I personally meant is that the context/starting situation is different enough for the READER to warrant separate tags, most often people are either into gender bender or body swap, but rarely both (personal experience from discussing it with people from both sides). That would be the justification I'd use for not using both, but that's not official or anything. Maybe it's not intuitive if you're unfamiliar with the tagging system, but I think it's a good way of handling it.

There are some grey areas with such tags, obviously, but not in a case where it's explicitly stated in both tag definitions that they should NOT be used together (with the exception of both occurring, obviously). I just want everyone to use the rules we have. If you don't agree with them and want them changed, hop over to the forums and suggest changes instead of tagging according to how you feel or arguing about how you feel about certain tags. Discussing it here is relatively pointless. Feelings aren't something we can use, unless they are defined in the rules. I would ask that we leave it at that. As mentioned before, you can head over to the forums if you don't understand a tag definition or think it should be changed, the comment section under a gallery isn't really the place for that.
Posted on 21 July 2019, 12:29 by:   Psychotic Pastry    PM
Score +13
I'm perfectly happy to leave at that, with the exception of reiterating that I think it should be tagged per site rules regardless of my own opinion. Just to be extra clear on that. I don't believe in breaking innocuous rules because you feel like it.

As for things that are actually on topic to the specific gallery: What font is this for the balloons, anyway? Is it just Anime Ace? It's been so long since I've used that one myself for anything I can never remember what it looks like.
Last edited on 21 July 2019, 12:48.
Posted on 24 July 2019, 22:17 by:   RelaxedCrow    PM
Score +5
Like most people here said. It would be much better with proper proof reading and tagging. Still pretty good though.
Posted on 11 February 2023, 01:04 by:   somercet    PM
Score +12
reads through lo-o-o-ong comments on grammar/tagging

Ahem.

This comic was awesome! Neither Makita nor Minimikawa was over idealized, and they managed to come to an understanding (as well as hot sex). The only way this could get better is if Mii-tan told Makita about a classmate who seems to be into girls, and vice versa. I also liked the way Makita chowed down on his own dick without hesitation. What a chad.

The extra-puffy pussies were visually tasty, as well.

The only possible downside was Akkyun's near-ambush introduction to sapphism, but that was headed off before any irreparable trauma ensured (as opposed to titillation).

11/10

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