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[F.W.ZHolic (FAN)] Takane no Hana e no Kokuhaku Seikouritsu wa Zero no Wake | Why the Unattainable Flower's Confession Success Rate is Zero [English] [Digital]

[F.W.ZHolic (FAN)] 高嶺の花への告白成功率はゼロの訳 [英訳] [DL版]

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Posted:2023-09-01 07:27
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Language:English  TR
File Size:71.90 MiB
Length:57 pages
Favorited:2623 times
Rating:
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Average: 4.62

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Posted on 01 September 2023, 07:27 by:   Remusnjh    PM
Uploader Comment
I love wholesome netorase and it doesn't seem like it was getting translated, so I did it myself. If anyone has any untranslated wholesome netorase, lmk at Stupidity#1159 (discord)
Posted on 01 September 2023, 07:46 by:   Alkazar    PM
Score +137
This is confusingly wholesome. I like it.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 08:03 by:   day of darkness    PM
Score +68
not sure what i should think about this one... would be fine for boyfriend to join in too. it weird that the author chose to kill off all his desire to at least be a part other than watching. As for me, i imagine the ultimate form of love is acceptance but also lust without lust it feel odd.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 08:30 by:   Aristoplato    PM
Score +111
wtf did I just read....
Posted on 01 September 2023, 08:39 by:   matxeon    PM
Score +31
thank so much.....
Posted on 01 September 2023, 08:42 by:   Zaiup    PM
Score +196
Answering the artist afterword, yes, sexual desire is instinctive, self-love, selfishness, and possessiveness can determine that one cannot accept their partner having relations with others, regardless of gender. In today's society, it is built on the restraint of our animal instincts, so we advocate the restraint of those instincts. However, individuals have the freedom to choose, so letting one's animal instincts run wild is also possible. But do not expect others to approve or accept it. Perhaps you may never find someone who truly loves you throughout your life, but this is a choice you made for yourself, and it is the consequence you should accept.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 09:26 by:   Leguna    PM
Score +16
Thank you very much!!!
Posted on 01 September 2023, 10:57 by:   stupid army    PM
Score +40
FAN masterpiece so far. Love the ending.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 11:19 by:   drei    PM
Score +44
This was awesome! I love netorase especially when it's wholesome. They tend to be rare so you're a true hero for doing this. I look forward to your future work!
Posted on 01 September 2023, 11:28 by:   inerg    PM
Score +128
Ultimate Cuck 3000.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 11:32 by:   SatanRekt    PM
Score -100
Now imagine a universe where this art instead of focusing on the cucked POV we got the bull POV. Wouldn't that be 10x hotter? Just hammering away at this guys gal, impregnating her and this cuck is gonna raise the kid kinda thing. IMO that would be sooooooo much hotter. Edit: Damn nearly -100 points and not a single critique of my opinion just downvote. Didn't realize there was so many hardcore cucks on here. Sorry if I stepped on any toes. I just think Bull POV is preferred cause its the preferred role in the real life situation I guess some people here who disliked my comment disagree with that. That is fine its ok to be a cuck just a shame there are so many of you so that people who make art like this have to cater to your tastes rather than mine.
Last edited on 02 September 2023, 11:09.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 12:15 by:   Richter DarkSlayer    PM
Score +46
:V The slutty elf and that student boy of Musshoku Tensei be like...
Posted on 01 September 2023, 14:06 by:   Thalia SexyArt    PM
Score +40
I usually am not much of a fan of NTR because the suffering of the cuck is a mood killer to me. In this one, the cuck is genuinely having a great time, and damn I fucking loved this comic! ^^
Posted on 01 September 2023, 14:25 by:   Leguna    PM
Score -52
Look at all these vanilla creeps, they hate NTR where the ugly bastards steal the girl but they are okay with gangbang. lmao these wimps just want their gf being banged by other dudes
Posted on 01 September 2023, 16:15 by:   Look A Moth    PM
Score +181
I came for the porn, I stayed for the comments.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 18:12 by:   donglything    PM
Score -9
A weird sort of relationship, but it's nice that everyone involved is supportive of her. I feel like in real life this sort of thing would fall apart because of drama from the guys banging her. Like, maybe one wants to tank their relationship so he can bang her more, one caught/still has feelings for her and is getting possessive, etc.
Posted on 01 September 2023, 22:52 by:   plahplah    PM
Score +18
does anyone have the cover image without the letters and stuff?
Posted on 02 September 2023, 00:08 by:   kampfer91    PM
Score +49
Heh at least this one not use the usual over-used plot . Most Netorase plot just end up into Netorare .
Posted on 02 September 2023, 05:31 by:   bjpm    PM
Score +39
Man I just found this a few days ago and was so disappointed that there was no translation for it. And suddenly a few days later it gets translated. This must be fate, so I had to fap to it
Posted on 02 September 2023, 05:35 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +95
1. Please punctuate. Noob mistake to think periods and commas don't apply to manga.
2. I was gonna comment on needing to redraw because you didn't for the first few pages, but then started doing it later, so idk I guess be consistent lol

>it doesn't seem like it was getting translated
Not that it matters all that much, but this came out like 2 weeks ago. Might as well have come 5 seconds ago in scanlation timelines.
Posted on 02 September 2023, 14:12 by:   dgjdgjdgj    PM
Score +58
Hey, as long as they happy.
Posted on 02 September 2023, 15:41 by:   Coledas Ukgent    PM
Score +25
This one was translated pretty quickly after it was released, thanks for that man!
Posted on 02 September 2023, 17:13 by:   joseliski    PM
Score +20
Well, gotta give him props for coming up with a plot not seen before in NTR. That said, I wished he had fucked her at least once.

The art was 10/10 though. He really has improved a lot.
Posted on 02 September 2023, 17:29 by:   BZo1480    PM
Score +59
Pretty much gotta agree with @joseliski, especially when she seemed like she actually wanted to do it with him, too. But hey, they're happy in the end and that's all that counts, lol.
Posted on 02 September 2023, 22:17 by:   Snotnose9001    PM
Score +312
Listen, wanting your girlfriend/wife to remain faithful to you is just as much a natural instinct as it is wanting to fuck everything that moves.
1.Our genes want to be passed on. If she's only fucking you, then you KNOW they will be. If she's fucking others, then you can't be sure.
2.If she fucks others, the odds that she contracts STDs goes up massively as well, and you don't want your mate to get sick, nor yourself, NOR your offspring.
3.The ability to pair bond goes down with more previous male partners. If she's fucked 100 guys, the odds that you're the best are literally 1 out of 100.
4.Indulging in all your instincts is fucking retarded. What separates us from animals is our ability to think critically. If she's fucking random dudes, what are the odds one doesn't randomly decide to beat her within an inch of her life?

I know, it's just porn, but spare me the attempt at painting NTR like it's unironically "the thinking man's fetish." I'm not saying she needs to be a virgin, but actively fucking dozens of other guys WHILE in a relationship and painting it as "le heckin wholesome" is a bad joke.
Posted on 03 September 2023, 01:33 by:   SatanRekt    PM
Score +39
@Snotnose9001
Based take. 100% agree on everything. This manga's romanticizing what is actually biologically supposed to be the greatest turn off to any sane man that being another man fucking your woman. Reading how this is wholesome is worse than a bad joke its deeply concerning and I hope its a bot typing that cause if it isn't oh boi.
Posted on 03 September 2023, 05:55 by:   Unwanted Miles    PM
Score +40
“You always were the romantic sort. You know, gentlemen, this man here, he married a whore. Used to ride with us. We all had her, but he married her, and you know that makes him a better man than us.”
— Dutch van der Linde
Posted on 03 September 2023, 18:12 by:   UnseenTrash    PM
Score +18
The art is amazing, compared to his earlier works on FGO and such it almost looks like 2 different artist, making that much progress in just a few years is very commendable, i know plenty of artists that have been doing this for almost a decade with a fraction of skill development this guy had.

With that being said, reading this made me realize how NTR just really isnt my thing, even the best most gorgeous pages in this work failed to keep even a half-erection going for me, Takane is gorgeous and i love anal but even then i coudlnt fap to her getting her ass dicked in pages 16 to 18.

Now about the postscript, the reason why im leaving a comment at all, "What is the purpouse of romance, the pursuit of love, or is it to have sex?"
it pretty clear that romance is for the pursuit of love imo, romance is about the emotional attraction and all the behavior we addopt in order to show said feelings for someone, with the sex being an afterthought most often than not, hell, why bother with romance at all if your only desire is the sex? even before civilization was a thing to our current society, the majority of sex happens with little to no romance at all.

"isn't it restrictive to label a man-woman relationship as a lover or a husband and wife?"
Yes it is, and if the last time i studied anthropology is of any use, the whole true-ish monogamy and marriage system is only a 1000 years old give or take, while for most of the Homo sapiens sapiens existence things such as dad-mom or boyfriend-girlfriend were pretty much nonexistent, which is something you can still i see a variety of isolated tribes in different corners of the world. But then again, using this to defend having a NTR fetish in this day and age is beyond pitiful, there is a reason why as civilization progresses we get more monogamous, basically, kids from chad and based monogamous tribes make better warriors then the kids from cringe chaotic polygamy tribes, cope and seeth.

i really did just drop a wall of text in hentai image hosting site huh, probably going to get downvoted to oblivion too, the jokes on me i guess.
Posted on 04 September 2023, 08:06 by:   Yukipo~    PM
Score +117
I'm sorry dudes but no amount of mental gymnastics are gonna change the fact that this guy is a just a massive cuck and a wimp.
I think too much NTR finally rotted Fan's mind kek. At least we all can agree that his art is fucking amazing so this work ain't that bad.
Posted on 04 September 2023, 15:08 by:   busterx    PM
Score +57
I honestly have to agree with some of the others that brought it up as well:

The attempt to make it be a "wholesome" ending(which by the strictest definition, it is for a Netorase work) honestly feels like a massive game of gymnastics rather than actually being a wholesome ending and Fan did so much NTR, he basically lost the entire plot. Like I'm not a vanilla softy and I like my fair share of hardcore works(Gangbangs is my favorite) but Netorare robs me the wrong way primarily because of stuff like this.
Fan tries to justify it in the back with the weakest excuse possible as if it's some "great honor" to love for romance and not for sex... when you get that without having the woman be a straight whore... it's called being pure and chaste by choice and just having a sexless marriage. Like yes, there is Polygamy(which isn't done as often for obvious reasons) and there is Monogamy(most often down for obvious reasons) but that tends to be the difference on the spot:

Both are closed marriages with anyone breaking it would break their partner's trust regardless. It's primarily way open relationships(Polymory) never end well on top of that because ultimately the partner wants their spouse for themselves and to only love themselves and to return that love to them any way they can. Like I even seen someone put in the RDR part in there but here's the difference: She atleast stopped being a whore when he went after her and gave her love. This girl won't ever stop being a whore and the dude is encouraging it. He's just being a massive cuck at the end of the day and a huge wimp. Like the Art is fantastic but I'll be frank: It's just one of the many reasons why I will never get into NTR and why I hate it that it's usually the best drawers that end up going virtually all in on NTR because we then get ridiculous assertions like this. I usually don't comment here at all but this one, I just had to.
Posted on 06 September 2023, 06:55 by:   biscardone    PM
Score +36
Since most of the people here seem to think this kind of relationship is impossible in reality, I'll relay a personal experience.

Meet T and R. They were my parents' closest friends: I met them and their children when I was a kid. They were an unconventional, yet visibly very close-knit couple.
And here's the kicker: many years after I met them, I discovered from my parents a peculiar fact about them: each one of them had a lover, and they both knew it. Fact is, before they married, they discovered that they had an incredibly low sexual compatibility, and having sex with each other was a complete hassle. However, they didn't want to end their relationship, as they felt they were really "meant for each other": so, without any lopsidedness, they decided to try and find a "stable lover": someone they could have sex with for mere pleasure, without any sentimental implication. And they did, to the point that they married, had children, and were a happy couple until the end (T died of cancer some years ago). Most astonishingly, they both were born in the 50s, when this kind of view about sex and relationships was very ostracized.

Now, of course, I won't say this kind of approach to relationships is either ordinary or feasible. I'm well aware most open couples end horribly (because of implicit imbalances), and the recent wave of NTR is mostly motivated by trends and money (it's a lucrative niche), and the discourse about it is equally contentious. I'm not even trying to say NTR is "the true way to go", or is intellectually motivated by something more than a fetish in most cases. What I'm saying is: each case, each relationship, each couple is different from others. At the very least, it's useful to keep an open mind, and avoid black-or-white views of the world.
Posted on 07 September 2023, 00:19 by:   Snotnose9001    PM
Score +36
@biscardone
I'm not even saying that there's a problem with open relationships. Although I do think the cons massively outweigh the pros.
I don't like NTR, but on paper, this was arguably handed better than most stories. At least the cuck knows and is fine with the situation. I think the most egregious bit was the baseball club member talking shit about him and the girlfriend agreeing. Sex or no, if your SO did that, kick their ass to the curb.

The thorn in my side was the afterword trying to make monogamy seem like this "phony bullshit we come up with for wanting to fuck someone and not have them fuck anyone else", and slutting around being the "more true way" to live. That is patently, verifiably false for most everyone.
Posted on 07 September 2023, 08:17 by:   Synthetical    PM
Score +46
Y'know. I put all NTR works into the closet years ago and have rarely if ever looked through them. This is because "good end" counter-NTR is hard to come by now. Even ones that catch my eye for the last decade have been far and few between. Probably not enough to count on my spare hand.

But this? This is alright. I can acknowledge this. It isn't exactly what I'd say is interesting. But goddamn its not the same drivel of "lmao, smallcock" or "here's the person getting cucked, you wont see them until the last page, if ever again", among other exciting plots we've seen at least fifty or sixty times minimum. It even speaks that the author actually thought a bit about what they were writing instead of going "eh, this shit sells like assclaps."
Posted on 09 September 2023, 02:36 by:   Minstrelofmoria    PM
Score +18
Reminds me of a lot of Mizuryu Kei stories.
Posted on 23 September 2023, 18:10 by:   TheRokyando    PM
Score +50
"How can you say you love her if you can't even let her fuck other men?" -the doujin.
Posted on 24 September 2023, 12:14 by:   pacific994    PM
Score +35
The girl and the scene is hot.

The story is ehhh is alright swinging standard.
I just hope situation like this are not normalize because fkin hell that feel so unholy.
Posted on 05 October 2023, 02:02 by:   bbfpps    PM
Score +21
Red Dead Redemption is not the same thing at all. Abigail was a prostitute but to make a living, and John married her and no one ever touched her again, and they had children of their own, and John and Abigail were very loyal to each other. So John Marston is a better man, but that's pure ignorance.

@Unwanted Miles
Red Dead Redemption is not the same thing at all. Abigail was a prostitute but to make a living, and John married her and no one ever touched her again, and they had children of their own, and John and Abigail were very loyal to each other. So John Marston is a better man, but that's pure ignorance.
Posted on 05 October 2023, 22:09 by:   Neithanranger    PM
Score +119
This is a work of fiction but regardless..
Guy's a loser, because they're a ton of girls out there, all of them with a pair of boobs, a vagina and a function brain, who are NOT into cheating. Girl is an absolute mastermind, taking advantage of the guy's stupidity. Gangbang crew obviously don't care much about either of them, they get to fuck and they don't even have to pay, just say they're supportive of the arrangement.

Now, if this was reality, it can go one of ways: 1) He finds his spine and walks away, 2) He offs himself (with or without killing her), 3) She gets bored of him for being a wuss and leaves him, 4) His masochistic/cuck nature surfaces more and spills into other venues, leading to poor choices and an impossible life, and then she leaves him.
Posted on 07 November 2023, 06:38 by:   Blitzkralle    PM
Score +36
You know that it is a good shit when you see the comment section is unnecery fucking long 🤭
Posted on 03 December 2023, 10:10 by:   Stigma123    PM
Score +15
This is insane. Dude must’ve been mind controlled.

This is insane. Dude must’ve been mind controlled.
Posted on 21 December 2023, 01:43 by:   weigazod    PM
Score +10
Hentai logic. You can't argue with that.
Posted on 15 January 2024, 17:45 by:   Chinro    PM
Score +6
I just like netorase and especially the more wholesome kind. Many here and the top comments are free to disagree but I think it's a combination that is possible.
Bringing up real life reasoning for any side feels a bit silly to given all the shit that goes down even in your 'normal' doujin.
Posted on 17 January 2024, 12:40 by:   Iexist    PM
Score +37
Well, this comment section is an unsurprising dumpster fire.

So of course I have to add in my own two cents of gasoline in the mix.

Honestly, this was an interesting little story to me. It's not the first time I've seen something somewhat along these lines... but it's pretty rare for the reveal that the girl is an absolute total slut to happen right during the confession the way this does it. Ultimately, this story, like most hentai stuff, is extremely unrealistic. Even leaving aside the biological reasons why this sort of behavior would turn problematic quickly... (I've known exactly one nympho, she got STDs in high-school, missed two weeks of school because it got really bad, returned looking like death warmed over, and wasn't quite the same after the experience during all the time left in highschool. I honestly dunno what became of that girl, but I genuinely pitied her more than anything else.) The big issue with what we see here is that the odds of there being so many dudes that are so understanding and that are willing to work together rather than compete trying to keep the slut for themselves is pretty much nigh impossible to occur in reality. Maybe there's a 0.(0)1% chance that such a thing occurs... but it's highly unlikely and improbable.

Ignoring the unrealism of it all, I'd say that the story is indeed wholesome, if only because everyone is happy about it all and no one's getting hurt. Just because it can't happen in reality doesn't mean it's not nice to see. The relationship between the two may be nigh impossible, but if it somehow did happen and everyone around them were supportive about this bizarre arrangement, then is there really anything wrong with that?

Obviously, I wouldn't recomend anyone trying anything this absurd in reality, and I definitely don't think that this sort of thing is more natural than monogamy... but I also don't think it'd be inherently wrong if it could somehow happen.
Posted on 04 February 2024, 17:12 by:   tonatiub    PM
Score +6
good shit but the poor mangaka nutted his brain out with that afterword lmao
Posted on 31 March 2024, 21:05 by:   Argret    PM
Score +14
It's a wonder every man in this doujin is a good person.
Well, in the end, that's not a bad thing.
PS: anyone who argued about the MC being spineless or something is kinda mistaken in my point of view.
To be able to accept all sides, ugly or not, of the one you love itself is nothing short of a miracle. And that's the key to a long lasting marriage, when lovers turn into family members.
Most (if not all) marriages broke down because of that.
Posted on 13 April 2024, 10:58 by:   Ravna3    PM
Score +5
Women are not creatures from a Mizuryu Kei doujin. Delete that from your brain. Leave thoughts like that only for fictional stories. I promise, reality is nowhere near this. Nobody will get into a relationship with a girl getting fucked by 10 guys right in front of you. Nobody will date a girl who fucks every stranger that comes close to her. No man that respects himself will ever tolerate this shit in reality. And if your brain is thinking that this is possible, seek help.

This is fiction, and it should be treated as such.

I would advise the author to get into a relationship. Sex doesn't define a relationship; it helps, for sure, but the amount of things you get. Those are things that you will understand immediately after getting a girlfriend.

Companionship, closeness, support, care, etc. Author, your way of thinking is completely distorted, and you should experience real life ASAP. There is no such thing as girls loving big dicks so much that they can't help but cheat on their partner with everybody that she comes close with. You have many kinds of women, that's for sure, but you need to separate fiction from reality. Open relationships always end up failing, and this is a fact. And about the "isn't it restrictive" comment that he made, no, it's not. It's that simple. 

We're not cavemen. Why do you think people who can't reproduce adopt? Why do you think they stay together? Love is a more complex subject. Not everything is instinct; we are not monkeys living in the jungle; we evolved from that thousands of years ago. Sex is a healthy way of maintaining a relationship, but the number of factors that come into play... Women are weird creatures; even if you give them the best sex of their lives, they will leave you to pursue something else.

I'll finish with this. Above all else, love yourself first.

Small edit: Look at Destiny the streamer, and the shit he used to say about open relationships. And then see how it ended.
Last edited on 13 April 2024, 11:25.

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