Translation by SMDC.

Thanks for the commission!

Is this really Netorare? Whether these two are in a relationship is really vague, does Saki even love her personal "electronic masturbator"? I would love to see a continuation of this as it has so much potential to be a great series.

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Always grateful to see mashiraga aki's work translated, I hope the others get translated soon. Thank you!

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Melonbooks - https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=338368

Toranoana - http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/cot/pagekit/0000/00/07/000000079696/index.html

Doujinshi - https://www.doujinshi.org/book/1100675/

Raw - https://e-hentai.org/g/1187400/aabb70134a/

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Not a doujinshi, bruh

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Unusual for mashira-dou.

Here, it's quite weak. They're all just sex friends and I don't get a sense of significant emotional attachment from any of the three characters.... resulting in what seems to just be regular sex rather than that netorare feeling.

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Damn this are the most realistic ntrs. But how some end are bs like that one with the guy staying with the cheating gf with the kid of the other guy.

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@shakuganaexa

I'm surprise you are getting so many upvotes, last time I said a manga by this artist wasn't NTR, I go downvoted -100+. This artist is pretty interesting in that the relationship of the couples are typically very vague. They usually aren't in a formal relationship, so either or having sex with other people technically isn't an issue even if they are emotionally invested in each other. To me, I consider it as moving on to greener pastures. The "good guy" should have made a move faster and been a actual man by confessing, as if they were in an official relationship, this sort of situation would not happen. They could just have sex in their house or something instead of in the school locker room.

Moral of the story: Don't be halfassed. If you like someone, go at it with full-force. Or they will just be taken away by other people.

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Not gonna lie, i basically copied the tags from the original page. You guys can change it if you want.

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NTR is way too common on SadPanda, because Fakku stole all the vanilla

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Well, I feel sorry for Saki. Shitty family at home and shitty NTRetard who thinks women are walking vaginas.

By the way, how come NTR almost always has the resident girl losing her wits because LEL I HAVE A BIG DICK, it's like the johnson is a magic wand or something hahaha.

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Isn't this closer to cheating than NTR? hell even cheating is a stretch.

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@pihip if we see men going crazy over boobs all the time then women going crazy over dick is not a stretch

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@pihip

My theory is that the NTR was born from hentai artists wanting to take a shit on shounen romance and the overly pure heroines in it. So they took those heroines (Nightmare of my Goddess is probably the first NTR doujin series out there) or created original ones that follow the usual tropes and then have them corrupted, so instead of the stereotypical shounen romance "pure love trumps everything" you get "actually, a douchebag with a huge dick who knows how to fuck trumps everything".

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"NTR or not" argue again?

really? why many of e-hen dwellers still dont understand it yet. definition of netorare nowaday doesnt require official relationship before taken away. just male and female with mutual feeling is ok.

be it childhood friends whose just like each other. two of close friends in the class/workplace. brother and sister , mom and son , dad and daughter ,etc etc.

in this case saki clearly "more okay" towards aida and preferred give her first time to him (see pg.17) which clearly said she got some mutual felling toward him. which is enough. and then stealer come and taken her away by sexual means.

look, i can simplified this. if the story is about....

[some guy want to dick a certain girl and that girl kinda okay with it. but them some douchebag with bigdick come along and dick her instead and she change of heart bcos that douche fuck so good.]

then it is NTR. end of story. this is fap material. you can not apply "If you like someone, go at it with full-force. Or they will just be taken away by other people." real world logic to it

if it a "cheating" the girl must be the one who goes find more dicks herself not more cocks find her. if it a "love triangle" scenario. a second guy must have chemistry and romantic interaction with girl. which is frankly, a more well known "NTR" story like 'another world' of yuzuki 'N is even more bend toward love triangle feeling than this "Not NTR" story

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@mad_saviour
The definition of Netorare is the literal definition of the word. Everything nowadays is NTR, even Fuetakishi is laughing at this stupidity. This doujin features unrequited love, not Netorare. NTR is being thrown everywhere nowadays that it's crazy. Remember, Takagi-san has even been considered NTR for a single chapter that meant to make fun of the reader (Chapter 31). Here, the characters are more or less sex friends, even if one has feelings for another, it's irrelevant if it's unrequited. Your summary of the story is idiotic, you clearly didn't read the story at all or was Mashiragi aki's stories too difficult for you to understand.

Fuck you to those who are spreading Netorare means a cuck or cuckold in Japanese, it's a pure invention and disrespect to the language. Any netori story is more NTR than this, hell Netori is literally netorare in Japanese. Stop diluting Netorare.

@mad_saviour
Proves my point. Who in the fuck use wikitionary and Wikipedia to prove his points? If you have any knowledge of Japanese, you would know how conjugations works and the way you used it here shows how disrespectful noobs in Japanese are. Netoru and netorare are conjugations of "netor-" (to put it simply) and the only difference between Netori and Netorare is that Netori is a continuative while Netorare is neutral. To put it simply, adding a simple perspective in a situation shouldn't change its meaning. The problem is idiots like you translate netorare as being a cuck or a cuckold and this is a very loose and in fact incorrect translation. The fact that there's no word for a cuck that begins with "neto" kills your argument competely. Someone needs to do more research here. NTR is a word that describes a situation. If we apply the wrong English translation of cuckold then the "N" situation doesn't make sense. Cuckold situation? Would you really say all the "N" series caters for cuckolds? I don't think so. N probably stands for Netorare in its Japanese definition which is simply someone taking someone from someone. To be honest, netorare's meaning is more closer to cuckolding than being cuckold in English. Reminder, I'm a translator so I do know what I'm talking about.

Introducing unrequited love would solve that dilemma. Majority of doujins considered netorare falls in that category. It would be interesting where Lustful Flowers 5 would fall into as. Personally it is unrequited love than netorare. Fuetakishi's Yankee girl being "Reverse NTR" is one of the best jokes of all time, hell it's up on par with that Takagi chapter on how it insults its cucks.

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@shakuganaexa

"you clearly didn't read the story at all or was Mashiragi aki's or was Mashiragi aki's stories too difficult for you to understand."

yeah...... all of his work story is like shove latters N , T and R to reader face. hell he even put "N" latter in title in some of his doujins. clearly i must be a poor reader. his work is not so NTR at all.

if we put your definition to work. NTR tag in e-hen will gone to endanger species in one click. believe it or not many of NTR tagged work in here are not goes by your standard. (like that countless work of sanbun kyouden will turn into vanilla, would be fun to see)

let the majority decide. if you are right. the tag will get down vote and will be gone by itself anyway. may be you're right man. the crowd may be the one that is too crazy about NTR.

oh and also thx for enlightening me that "Netori is literally netorare in Japanese"

寝取られ - " being cuckolded"

寝取り- "cuckolding someone"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%82%8C#Japanese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidelity

"Fuck you to those who are spreading Netorare means a cuck or cuckold in Japanese, it's a pure invention and disrespect to the language"

thx for the knowledge sensei. i especially like that F word to others. it show how being well manner and civilize.

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@mad_savior: I voted up for you.

"really? why many of e-hen dwellers still dont understand it yet. definition of netorare nowaday doesnt require official relationship before taken away. just male and female with mutual feeling is ok.

be it childhood friends whose just like each other. two of close friends in the class/workplace. brother and sister , mom and son , dad and daughter ,etc etc. "

Yes, it's NTR. If you want to find out how many kind of NTR, research for yourself @shakuganaexa. At least, research harder before critic someone.

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Please delete

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@shakuganaexa

look pal. dont sway topic. we talk about should we consider this work is "Netorare or not" not to admire your superior knowledge in japanese. you can argue that until cows come home.

you ask "Is this really Netorare? " and i said YES. and you blabbing wrong meaning that, blabbing noob this.

im quote from yours "Netorare in its Japanese definition which is simply someone taking someone from someone. " - and how is this work (and most of all netorare tagged work) consider not netorare? you just describe how to use this word and also story of this doujinshi yourself.

and another thing. quote from yours " characters are more or less sex friends, even if one has feelings for another, it's irrelevant if it's unrequited"

which is just yours opinion, its not a fact or rule. and just different from majority standard or even author standard. mostly considered netorare is more about the feeling of the protagonist and not about the "status of their relationship" (no mater that love is unrequited or not). It's about the feeling from seeing someone you love deeply being tainted and taken by someone else.

there is no 'Ten Commandments of hentai' to set that rule. definitions can be blur. your opinion is yours and i do respect that. dont look down at everyone that think different for the sake of your 'expert' point of view.

and day has pass since this doujin post, or a month since raw. tag netorare is still there on both version. it should tell you something. or you can just think of me and many more users are just " disrespectful noobs".

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@mad_saviour
That definition has a prequisite, that the two characters are in a relationship. Here there is no relationship, at least a proper one. Netorare has a clear definition and it doesn't mean being a cuckold or cuckolded. Since Netorare is neutral, feelings are irrelevant, it's not about the feelng someone you love being tainted or stolen considering the boy here isn't even aware of it. That's stupidity right there. Like I said on the other post already, netorare does not mean being cuckold or a cuck. Stop putting feelings involve in a word that doesn't give a shit about it. Netorare is a word for a situation, not a feeling. Stop spreading bullshit, that's applies to everyone here. Stop being disrespectful and calling netorare cuckold hentai when it's not. Stop misappropriating the word netorare, how dare people say netori shouldn't be considered NTR when it is. If anything, being a cuckold is not covered by NTR being there is no word to means being a cuck that begins with "neto". If anything, it's cucks that should fuck off because they are not covered by NTR (The truth fucking hurts). Feel free to debunk me but make sure you have a Japanese dictionary. Don't rely on the internet since this misconception is so spread out that it's insane.

The masses aren't always right, look how Jin fans treated a rewrite as a translation for many years until someone exposés and the secret.

This doujjn is another example of unrequited love and a damn good one at that.

Netorare is a situation, not an feeling or a pronoun. The Tachibana one is actually NTR as they did have a lovers relationship with Yuu, the trip was for him to impregnate them after all. The Nagare Ippon one, they are childhood friends. I'm all up for expanding netorare from a married couple to people with other kinds of relationships but where will we draw a line. Most anime and manga are technically NTR if we apply the broad western version of netorare. All it takes for an anime or manga to be considered NTR nowadays is a third guy. Even my beloved Inuyasha has been considered NTR regarding Inuyasha "NTRing" Kagome from Koga.

And that's the problem, NTR is now linked to love triangle. Hajimete no Gal is an example, Darling in the Franxx is another one. Oh Grancest Senki on its lastest episode as well (I can't wait for Marine doujins of that scene). This also applies to both males and females. Who could forget the Kannagi scandal?

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^
and why you count childhood friends is netorare-able but not sex friends one? a girl who gladly give you sumata is not enough to 'draw the line' for you?

and All it takes for an anime or manga to be considered NTR nowadays is a third guy is also wrong. we can separate love triangle and ntr. "where will we draw a line?" actually. the line is there but you just didnt see it. or else we would tag every love triangle or swinging/swap/mmf threesome as netorare already.
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since when we cant use a word for a situation to describe feeling. like....

"how are you doing man?"
"im dead...."

did that guy really mean he'sdead? no he just feel very exhausted. or like "im in shit" which didnt mean you really stand in pool of poops. yes correct, netorare didnt "literally" mean being cuck. but when you said it everyone understand that is about cuck. no one gonna think about "loved one get taken away situation" that kind of meaning.

and about prequisite, that the two characters are in a official and clear romance relationship..... which is i already said that is just opinion of yours even many artists themselves think otherwise.

so some of these are not netorare hentai right? since two characters arent in proper relationship. (just friends , family and unrequited love)
https://e-hentai.org/g/1099938/c4aaa32b95/
https://e-hentai.org/g/375472/4769aa46e5/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1189746/e3a63dd83e/

words is like paper money . society decide and agree on how much value and meaning of it not how it actually worth. your opinion is like denies value of paper money and accept gold and jewelry only and point everyone that use paper money is stupid because they hold value on small piece of paper.

the words are exist to communicate if everyone can understand same meaning from same word. then it correctly use. meaning and definition can change over time as long as it can communicate correctly then its fine. even dictionary itself must update time to time.

"Stop being disrespectful and calling netorare cuckold hentai when it's not. " good luck with that. its like tell the whole world to stop using 'tsundere' as the way it is now. which even japanese themselves accept the wrong and deviant meaning of it. which is funny that even japanese authors labeled netorare word on title of work that full of cuckold story. like zonda and nagare's one
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your opinion is yours and im not gonna talk shit on that like you do. diversity is part of being human. only time can prove your correctness.

god speed pal. i hope you can bring justice to the world of hentai.

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There wouldn't be any arguing about netorare if people just read original Japanese definition of this genre.

As long as guy have feelings for the girl (even if she don't give a fuck about him) and then she fucked by someone else then this is "stealing" in his perspective, so it would be considered netorare. Also ntr genre including in itself both cheating and cuckold.

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Certanly, i hate this author.

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I wish the art was better.

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the drama is too forced in this one, but thanks for translating it.

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