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[Sakagami Umi] Netorase ~Tsuma no Ichiban Kirei na Hi~ | Netorase - My wife's most beautiful day (COMIC HOTMiLK Koime Vol. 15) [English] [MTL] [Digital]

[坂上海] ネトラセ ~妻のいちばん綺麗な日~ (コミックホットミルク濃いめ vol.15) [英訳] [DL版]

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Posted:2022-04-09 22:39
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Language:English  TR
File Size:41.26 MiB
Length:20 pages
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Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:39 by:   NumberE    PM
Uploader Comment
This is MTL, text replacement is also automatic. I got tired of waiting for a translation. Thought I'd share, maybe someone could use it in this form too. Of course, regular translations are welcome.

Upd.

RAW: https://e-hentai.org/g/1493775/720ed19dba/ starting on page 60

The translation is done automatically by "Ichigo Reader" - you can't edit the translation or extract the original text.

I also hope they will make the MTL tag.
Then only the target audience will come.
The vast majority of what is published will never be translated.
There is a certain audience that needs MTL even in a low-quality form. To deprive them of it because others don't like it?
I hope the MTL direction will develop and we will see more translations.

Raw Manga Fan - also replaces text, but you can extract the original text.
Copyfish - you can extract the text, but you have to select it manually.

Upd. 2

The main postulates and arguments in the comments are to ban it, exclude it because you don't like it, to protect the purity of the translation, and no one needs it at all.
You can just not read it if you don't like it. Perhaps, before there is a corresponding tag, we should make the MTL in the header more prominent, something like "Warning! MTL!". But why read to the end, when everything is clear from the first page, and then suffer?

There are people in the world who want to ban the entire e-hentai site. They make "convincing" arguments. Do we need to listen to them?

We need diversity of choice, some will find it bad or good. Some will try to equalize everyone according to their perceptions.

Some people need MTL: 300+ have made it a favorite gallery; torrent alone has been downloaded 500+ times.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:46 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +527
And you also used the downsized version of the images. Truly a gift to mankind.

p.17 they're already soaked in car juice

At least that got a good chuckle out of me
Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:48 by:   wootwoot123    PM
Score +478
What a waste of time ... When will people understand no one give a shit about MTL, worse, you just give people a reason to NOT translate .
Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:51 by:   Cryptnotic    PM
Score -100
Do you have a tool that does text extraction from the raw? Also, where is the raw version? It's not too long. If I find it interesting, I might translate it for you.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:55 by:   viltras    PM
Score +286
MTL + downsized image + horrible editing
mmmmm I got so turned off my dick turned into clitoris.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 22:55 by:   Forgunia    PM
Score +502
If you use machine translation for your own entertainment, nobody would care. However, you shouldn't upload crappy translations to the web.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 23:16 by:   NumberE    PM
Score -100
RAW: https://e-hentai.org/g/1493775/720ed19dba/ starting on page 60.

Translation and replacement done with "Ichigo Reader" - chrome addon. Replaces text with translation, you can't edit.
To extract, you can use "Raw Manga Fan", also translates and replaces, but you can copy the original text.
There is also "Copyfish", but you have to select manually.
There are a lot of ocr programs now, but not all of them can handle manga.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 23:21 by:   Waitugreat    PM
Score +174
"Machine translation" tag, when? So one can blacklist MTL ...
But interesting that it's not just an machine translation but also an automatic replacement of the text.
Posted on 09 April 2022, 23:46 by:   NumberE    PM
Score -100
I agree, we need an MTL tag.
But how long should we wait for the translation, a year or two? The magazine is from 2019.
That's why I'm in favor of using a special tag, so as not to traumatize sensitive souls with soulless machine translation. But I'm also in favor of more mtl implementation along with better quality, since only a small part of the published hentai manga is translated and that won't change.
Yes, I might not publish it, but not everyone will use the translation privately since the program is not free. Yes, and it's more convenient to use a ready-made product. Some people want to understand at least approximately what's going on. Maybe the audience that needs mtl is small, but it exists, so why deprive them of this opportunity? And it's not romantic poetry being translated here...
Posted on 09 April 2022, 23:47 by:   justineonetwothree    PM
Score +8
I don't like to criticize something that I got to read for free but this is so bad as to be unintelligible.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 00:49 by:   moximoore    PM
Score -100
I've done a few machine translations. MTLs aren't all bad. But I've also tried to give the dialogue sense and character without destroying it's intent. Basically, about as good as a decent dub of an anime without all the Funimation cringe. I also ask any Japanese speakers in the comments which lines are way off or need tweaking so that I can edit them appropriately.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 01:22 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +285
@moximoore
People like you really need to stop perpetuating the myth that "MTLs aren't all bad". They are when it comes to a) creative writing; and b) contextual languages like Japanese. Idk how many times I have to bust galleries and write long-ass comments to show that even extremely well-edited MTLs are still full of mistakes, many of them major. Browse the "rough translation" tag to see what I mean.

>which lines are way off or need tweaking so that I can edit them appropriately.
If I were to do that, I'd basically be re-translating this entire thing. For some bizarre reason, you think MTLs just make "small" mistakes and all you need to do to "fix" them is to make them sound English. The problem is that MTLs don't just write like machines, they translate like machines, making their output often wrong. Even if you were to edit the output to make it "readable", chances are you're only polishing a turd as the translation is fundamentally incorrect.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 02:08 by:   zeroorex    PM
Score +143
MTL can be used as an assistance tool but it should never taken at face value like it's done here. When you see Dad/Father translated to Mr. Otto... you know there was no attempt to double check the accuracy of the MTL.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 04:01 by:   mish2001    PM
Score +40
Been so long since we got a Sakagami Umi translation... but NotLikeThis...
Posted on 10 April 2022, 05:37 by:   Remeark    PM
Score +38
Thank you for the brain damage.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 06:16 by:   moximoore    PM
Score -48
@cutegyaru

Well, they're certainly not great. C+ at best and D- at worst. I think they work best for light simple translations and not complex drawn out plots. That being said,
if it's that much of a detriment, then perhaps an appeal to admins should be made to ban MTLs. You yourself have said you often have to come to MTL uploads to chastise them, but is it making a dent in the uploads? I think better time would be spent appealing to the ones over the site, unless they don't care. :/.

This one here is Is pretty bad though.
Last edited on 10 April 2022, 06:37.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 07:30 by:   VanillaFaps    PM
Score +133
If you are going to post a god-awful translation of anything, at least have the decency to go over it and retype it to make sense. A 20-page doujin would take 30 minutes tops. Doesn't matter if its accurate, doesn't matter if the original meaning is lost. 95% of people wouldn't be able to tell anyways. This one is far from the worst offender I've seen from MTL, but leave not just the translation but even the typesetting to a machine is staggering. This kind of minimum-effort garbage is an affront to everyone, especially since a workable fix requires only a pitiful amount of actual investment.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 08:34 by:   blackkat101    PM
Score +60
I believe the pregnant tag can only be applied if there is "more than one page" with the pregnant sex content.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 08:48 by:   In4rius    PM
Score -88
better MTL as nothing, thx. i also use MTL for mangas they dont translated for knowing whats going on. i do know this MTLs are not the best but better as understand nothing :)

what do u use for MTL?
Posted on 10 April 2022, 11:40 by:   Yuulko    PM
Score +33
Ah yes, i remember being a kid calling my father mr.dad....wtf
Posted on 10 April 2022, 17:55 by:   Orengestar    PM
Score -81
she should get an abortion before offing herself. cheaters get the rope.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 19:42 by:   Chunga    PM
Score +81
>I also hope they will make the MTL tag.
This is never gonna happen, tenboro has stated multiple times that he doesn't want to hurt the feelings of "hard working translators" like you. Therefore, we are stuck with "works" like this.
Posted on 10 April 2022, 19:48 by:   bergil    PM
Score +42
There is a special place in hell for those who use MTL to translate hentai and then unironically say " Of course, regular translations are welcome".

@ blackkat101 Really, do you think the pregnant tag is the biggest problem here?
Posted on 11 April 2022, 07:46 by:   DxKuro    PM
Score +20
"I also hope they will make the MTL tag.
Then only the target audience will come."

They won't come because nHen already exists...they already have a place to be stupid, thank you very much...

People are doing this MTL unironically, deluding themselves into thinking there aren't people who would be willing to translate it if they'd would stop being cheap SOB's and open a bounty or pay for a TL. I haven't paid for many works, but I've paid for a few...I'd rather wait 4 months of someone wit a backlog of things to translate than to do it for free and butcher the entire fanspace.

PS: NTR + SWINGING = THE HUSBAND IS NOT AWARE + YOU CAN'T SWING WITHOUT A FULL 2nd GROUP AND THAT IMPLYS IT'S WITH PERMISSION WHICH ISN'T FUCKING. CHEATING. OR CUCKOLDRY. Jesus fucking CHRIST learn how to read the tag definitions.
Posted on 11 April 2022, 19:52 by:   kappitoo    PM
Score +26
lol. the comments were more fun to read AND made more sense.
Posted on 12 April 2022, 01:06 by:   moximoore    PM
Score +21
After thinking about it a little more, I don't even know how you would enforce a "NO MTL" rule. I mean, 100% of it relies on the uploader being honest about the translation in the first place. Maybe you could set up tests or something to try to sus them out? But that just seems like a whole other can of worms.
Posted on 12 April 2022, 06:46 by:   tealsack    PM
Score +41
@moximoore if sufficient evidence is shown in the comments, to know a gallery is poorly translated and the author over a period of time has no intention of improving or the gallery is MTL'd then it should be expunge-able, once a gallery gets the poor grammer/rough translation it should then be expunged. If the uploader is a repeat offender his account and IP gets banned.
Posted on 12 April 2022, 16:30 by:   CrystalMendrilia    PM
Score +23
Well I found the read kind of boring, and everything was rushed. This should be the middle of a series or something.
Posted on 13 April 2022, 00:21 by:   Janedoo1t    PM
Score +12
good plot, terrible translation
Posted on 15 May 2022, 19:32 by:   Nicosai    PM
Score +41
I'm not one of these who are entirely against machine translations, but this is unreadable.

By the way, on the pregnancy tag:
Notes: Remember the presence rule. Should not be tagged if a person is simply shown as pregnant in the last pages of a story, nor is it to be used in place of impregnation
Posted on 13 July 2022, 07:15 by:   SupaDupaMan2    PM
Score +55
This is terrible. I will do a retranslation of this.

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