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Josou Saserarete Futanari Kouhai Servant ni Onnanoko ni Sarechau Hon (FateGrand Order) (machine translated)

Doujinshi
(Disowned)
Posted:2022-05-15 20:49
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Language:English  
File Size:679.4 MiB
Length:20 pages
Favorited:384 times
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Posted on 15 May 2022, 20:49
Uploader Comment
I'm putting this here so this comment Will always be at the top of the page
I Just want to say that while i haven't really done a good job defending myself and handling this shitshow i'm also not Just going to get shit on and not fight back regardless of what you think of me now and my machine translation you all are no better than me i Know that no matter what i say it won't matter because i'm already the punching back of this post or even this website at this point which is unfortunate but what can you do about it again i won't Just let myself get shit on without punching back but i Will also acknowledge my mistakes i shouldn't Just call anyone who dissagrees with me an asshole or arrogant but i was so pissed off that i Just said whatever i could to get back at anyone who was Just shitting on me and to be honest a lot of these comments are Just straight up nasty like holy shit some of the things you people are saying really hurts i won't even try to hide that anymore also making assumbtions about me like saying i lie about my age or that i Don't actually have any Passion for translating even though like i said i basically Just translated and used Photoshop for the majority of the weekend which i normally use to rest and Just enjoy myself i really hate when people Just make up assumbtions about me so i felt personally attacked regardless that doesn't mean i should have been such an asshole to Just anyone who didn't like me dissagreed with me or simply stated their opinion but the one's who are Just making fun of me and are probably stil shitting on me the only thing i'm going to say to you is fuck you while i might have been mostly in the wrong you are Just shitting on me for no reason at this point anyway to one's i unjustly called asshole or pieces of shit or whatever i said i'm sorry but that doesn't mean most of you are in the right either but i am willing to let it go because regardless what you think i am An adult 24 years old so i'm going to do the responseble thing and appologize and move on i hope this is enough for the one's i again called and asshole or whatever i'm sorry again
Posted on 15 May 2022, 20:52 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
i do see a few that would make it but instead of fixing small mistakes i'd rather focus on translating more doujinshi's
Posted on 15 May 2022, 20:56 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +357
Everyday we drift further from God's light.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 20:58 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +751
Alright, let's dispel some misconceptions that you STILL have. All machine translators are EQUALLY shit. DeepL is usually seen as "better" because it mostly makes coherent English sentences. Grammatically correct =/= accurate translation. How would you even know which one is good? You can't compare to the Japanese text, because you don't understand it.

You want real advice? Instead of wasting your time doing "4 machine translations", just go learn Japanese.

>but no matter how hard i try photoshop makes it simply impossible
What? PS is a tool. You being bad or inexperienced at using it doesn't make it bad. In fact, it's probably the best software out there for cleaning and redrawing.

>i'd rather focus on translating more doujinshi's
God, please don't. You're completely, 100% reliant on MTL.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:02 by:   Meikuumon    PM
Score +167
uploader please delete this gallery and never bother again with translation or uploads if you don't know CJK-Languages and image editing.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:04 by:   wootwoot123    PM
Score +130
Not interested in MTL or rewrite. Delete this garbage and stop wasting your time.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:18 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
cutegyaru honestly while all machine translators are flawed in my experience they are actually pretty good if you know how to use them and think about what they mean and don't just blindly follow them without thinking twice about it because most times they make total sense if you use your head

also i literally don't have time to learn japanese that would take years i simply don't have the time or patience for that i'm 24 now i have other things i want and need to do also nobody wants this filth is also not true it's just that people like you in this community are arrogant and expect everything posted here to have perfect grammar and be 100% perfectly translated even though english isn't even my mother language to begin with so instead of complaining and calling something i put multiple days of hard work and dedication in garbage let's see you learn japanese and translate doujinshi's for free as a hobby like me and even if you do know japanese that doesn't mean that you aren't an arrogant asshole

also i have been using photoshop for 4 years now but just recently started to learn how to clean text so i've been getting better gradually as you will see with the next couple of doujinshi's that i will translate and upload here i'm self taught and in my opinion which i don't give a fuck what you think about it i'm pretty good i can cut out most things pretty perfectly i know how to make fancy text etc.

also i won't stop this is a huge passion of mine which i have been thoroughly enjoying i finally feel like i am doing something that i have been wanting to do for free as a passion so you can fuck off as i will keep translating doujinshi's to the best of my abilities you arrogant ungrateful piece of fucking shit asshole if you don't like it then get the fuck out we need to get rid of assholes like you also trust me if i could upload it somewhere else i would but e-hentai is about the only website that i know of that allows pretty much everyone with an account to upload their post
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:25 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +501
>english isn't even my mother language
Then why "translate" into it? Why not MTL into your own language and deal with that community shitting on you?

>so instead of complaining and calling something i put multiple days of hard work and dedication in garbage let's see you learn japanese and translate doujinshi's for free as a hobby like me
He doesn't know.jpg
Also, time invested automatically = good end product right?
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:35 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +384
>in my experience they are actually pretty good if you know how to use them
Again, you're talking out of your fucking ass. You don't know how good they are because you don't fucking understand the languages you're translating TO and FROM.

>also i literally don't have time to learn japanese that would take years i simply don't have the time or patience
tl:dr: you're lazy

>that people like you in this community are arrogant
Excuse me, but knowing the languages you're translating to and from, and having proper fucking grammar are BARE MINIMUMS. If asking for the bare minimum is being "arrogant", then I don't know what to fucking tell you.

>also i won't stop this is a huge passion of mine
No, it's not. If this was a passion of yours, you'd take time and effort to make it right, which you aren't.

> you arrogant ungrateful piece of fucking shit asshole
Yeah, yeah. Let it all out. It still doesn't make you a translator, and even less of a good one, you fucking clown. Oh, and who the fuck should be grateful for this garbage? Are you seriously expecting people to thank you? lmao
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:40 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
honestly i don't mind criticism but this is just sad i can't even say that i made a few mistakes and i'd rather focus on translating more doujinshi's without getting shit on and disliked to hell i've never seen such an arrogant and entitled community in my life and i've been on the internet since like 2008 or maybe even earlier you people just want everything on a silver plate and any translation that isn't 100% accurate get's shit on by people who don't even try to translate on their own the only reason i even started to translate and i spent days translating is because so many works just stay untranslated and i don't have the money to commission all the works i want translated i would need to be a millionaire for that so i thought i would atleast try to translate some works to the best of my abilities but apparently that isn't good enough for you people honestly it's no suprise that so many other alternatives websites have been catching up over the years it's because you are all such entitled little children that won't be happy until everything is perfectly translated and people are starting to see that so they go to all these other websites honestly i won't stop just to spite you people also dislike me atleast that shows me i have some impact and even if you don't dislike this i will still see that as a win either way if i'm supposed to be the villain as to say i might as well try to annoy or even piss off as many as you assholes as i can

Scumbini atleast it's better than not trying at all

wootwoot123 hell no i will kep this up just to spite you entitled assholes
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:43 by:   nikgtasa    PM
Score +128
@uploader Comment tags: rough grammar, zero punctuation
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:44 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +136
>that massive wall of ramblings
I ain't reading that lol

>i won't stop just to spite you
You're hilarious. Are you sure you're 24? Maybe you added an extra number in there.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:45 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
cutegyaru if this wasn't a passion of mine than why would i spent my entire weekend translating these works instead of doing other things like relaxing also that's pretty fucking arrogant to me that you think you know if this is my passion or not

honestly at first this was annoying the fuck out of me but seeing all you assholes so angry and trying to shit on me is actually kinda fun to feel i can do his with one post

cutegyaru no i'm pretty sure i'm 24 i think i would remember my own age seems like you aren't though you sound more like a child to me
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:48 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +202
This nigga writing paragraphs and saying it's everyone else that's mad.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 21:49 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Scumbini indeed old meme just look at this shit show of a comments section

Scumbini well i mean if they aren't including you why are they all posting comments like these to be honest this is more fun than i though it would be anyway stick around or not but i won't stop uploading these
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:03 by:   orangemouse    PM
Score -100
Not sure I understand the hate here. Thanks for translating.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:24 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
orangemouse thank you finally someone normal
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:25 by:   Duelyeast    PM
Score +20
I must also demand a wall of text dedicated to me.

You suck, now ramble.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:26 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Duelyeast no and i don't suck you're just an ungrateful asshole
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:29 by:   Duelyeast    PM
Score +12
How can I be ungrateful? I did absolutely nothing with the gallery except for inspecting the translation. Zero pleasure, zero downloads, but I got around 100 Gy (radiation unit) of toxicity from you. That's pretty good.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:49 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Duelyeast you're seriously calling me toxic when you Just come here to make fun of me because everyone else is doing so Just how much up your own ass can you be
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:49 by:   Daruna    PM
Score -5
obvious bait account
Posted on 15 May 2022, 22:57 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Daruna if you're talking to me then no Just some Guy sharing something he spent 8 hours on and getting shit on for it for no reason be trying to defend himself but is now Just tired of it and Just try's to piss off as Manu people as possible out of spite call me childish if you want i honestly Don't Care anymore

Honestly i won't even try anymore to explain or defend myself anymore Just Know that you are all terrible people and honestly i Don't think asshole is enough to describe you people anymore you are beyond pieces of shit there is no word to describe how awfull you all are you are all Just a waist of atoms a plague on this planet i Don't care if you think i'm Just trolling or that i'm Just a little kid or that i'm exasterating or lol le epic meme Just Know that you are all a waste of space and nobody likes you and i hope you are forever Alone and miserable in your own canceres cesspool that you yourself created i won't delete this post because that would be giving in to you piles of shit so Just Out of spite this Will Stay up and there Will be more come i hope you all have a miserable life and die Alone in the word
Last edited on 15 May 2022, 23:19.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 23:21 by:   Duelyeast    PM
Score +21
Zero punctuation! But worry not, you're quite the punching bag.
I came here to share my poem, just so you know, traps aren't gay.
However, I can't say the same thing for MTL.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 23:26 by:   Vanilla Cream    PM
Score +295
RAW

@orangemouse
If you read even one comment from cutegyaru or uploader you'd understand why.
TLDR; uploader thinks machine translating is fine, but cutegyaru says he wouldn't even know what "fine" is because he doesn't understand Japanese.

@uploader
Regardless of what the others are saying, you're not making a good case for yourself:
The lack of punctuations and capitalization in your comments are a bit iffy.
You insulting others don't help your case in any way, even if they they themselves were bad actors in this case.
Your galley is missing the original cover art page and is 200 MB larger than the RAW.
Lastly, P.1:"Magic dresses"?! Do you mean mystic codes? 魔術礼装 = Mystic Codes BRUUUHHH

Edit:
uploader, look, no one really cares how much time you took, how old you are, or your side of the story.
What they really care about is whether it is well translated or not.
That's the reason why they point out your own failings and gave you tips (on top of them egging you on).
No one cares if you apologize or not. It's the internet.
If what they say really bothers you then don't read the comments anymore. Go outside and "touch grass".

If you want to continue translating and not get dumped on, then put more effort and time into learning Japanese. Doesn't have to be tomorrow, a month, or even a year.
If you've got the passion, do it. If not, then stop.

Cutegyaru has already made the point that no matter what or how many MTLs you use, in the end, you don't have the context to translate it.
You can exactly see this in my example above: 魔術礼装 = Mystic Codes. You have limited knowledge of Fate so you failed to pick this up on the very first textbox of the very first page.
This alone shows you no matter how many MTLs you use, you can/will get a wrong translation. And a translation is more than just input to output.
It just so happens in this case it's more reliant on how well you know Fate.

MTLs have had a recent boom in this age - most likely due to the rise of popularity in anime in mainstream audiences.
If you look back on the uploads with the "rough grammar" tag you'll notice that there has been a rapid increase since 2019.
You'll find that for 2020-2022 this clocks in at 382 results of the 501 non-expunged galleries.
So, in roughly 2 years there has been a flood of "rough grammar" tagged galleries that make up 76% of the total "rough grammar" tagged galleries.
Some of these are just rough grammar, but before the introduction of the "rough translation" tag, it and the "rewrite" tag were a catch-all for poor translations. (They still kind of are even now.)

With this in mind you can see how some of the fluent English speaking community is fed up with the state of uploads.
There's the constant surprise of finding a doujin/manga you like being translated... only for it to be a MTL or poorly mishandled.
Now imagine having that done several times a month over a timespan of a few years and you have these comment sections.
Last edited on 16 May 2022, 00:29.
Posted on 15 May 2022, 23:46 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Vanilla Cream listen i get that it's annoying but that doesn't justify Just shitting on someone's hard work i'm al fine with critisism but calling something i worked my ass off garbage and everytime i try to defend myself get shit on by the entire community it's no wonder i start to fight back trying to get back at Them and when everything fails just try to do anything i can to try to get back at Them look i'm not proud of the way i handled myself but what would you do in my situation again something i spent 8 hours on out of pure Passion regardless of how bad it is which in my opinion isnt' even that bad anyway and Just calling it garbage i'm not gonna lie really pissed me off and offended me anyway the point i'm trying to get at is while i'm not proud of the way i handled myself regardless of how i offended and pissed off i was and the most part still am i still think these people are assholes they could Just say that it's not good or they Don't like it that's fine i'm not a child regardless of what they think i Know i'm 24 but calling it outright garbage and telling me to Just stop because i'm so shit at it that's something i won't Just let stand i am going to defend myself while trying to explain my side of the story was i rude yes was it justified calling him/her an arrogant asshole no but i was pissed and offended and i won't appologize until they take it back i'm sorry if that makes me seem immature but i won't Just take it and not fight back that's Just how i am how i always was and i'm not going to chance that
Posted on 16 May 2022, 00:01 by:   Daruna    PM
Score +25
take your meds schizo
Posted on 16 May 2022, 00:27 by:   JDhentai69    PM
Score -100
Daruna see this is what i mean it doesn't matter what i say or how i try to defend myself this is actually childish i already said sorry and appologized if you Read the top comment but what am i Just supposed to let myself get shit on is that what you all want because if that's the case i won't feel bad anymore about calling you assholes
Posted on 16 May 2022, 01:17 by:   hjerry    PM
Score +156
What you are supposed to do is not post machine translations when you know that everyone wants you not to.

You know that everyone will hate it. You know that they'll tell you that they hate it, but you post it anyway, and want to somehow be the victim for doing so.

Better idea, if you don't want to get hated on for something that you know you'll get hated on for, and that helps absolutely no one, just don't post it.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 01:25 by:   Draw99Gray    PM
Score +16
DELETE YOUR GALLERIES AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS SITE, NEVER COME BACK
clear enough? no one wants to see this shit.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 01:57 by:   fatman18    PM
Score +108
Your work isnt hard work. My phone can do what you did for free in seconds. My phone camera can get a translation on par with this. Literally the only thing of value here would be actually getting the translation onto the pages and even that is done subpar.

If you actually care for this and are passionate, stop. Just stop, thats it. As was explained before, every single one of these you upload reduces the chance of a real translation ever seeing the light of day, which fucks the entire thing for everyone.

I even believe you, I do not think you are doing this outta malice or that you are some kinda elaborate troll. But every single time you have uploaded shit like this, it has been universally shit on it, downvoted and made fun of. People do not want this. If you feel like this is great and you want it? Keep it to yourself, do not upload it. You are perpetuating this cycle by shitting in the mouths of everyone, when you could just NOT UPLOAD IT. I beg you for the love of god, if you are passionate about this, either actually learn the langauges or do not make your works public.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 02:16 by:   Chen Nyan~    PM
Score +30
There is a simple answer to all this: Stop doing machine translations and fuck off.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 03:58 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +120
@uploader
Take a breather. You've made this a thousand times worse on yourself than it had to be. I make the SAME criticism to anyone who MTLs. My goal isn't to come to your gallery to cause you a nervous breakdown or to insult you - it's to convince you to actually give a fuck. MTL sucks, and that's just an unfortunate reality. No amount of time or effort put into it will make it better.

Instead, I encourage you to learn Japanese, or, if you really like scanlation, to improve your editing and join a scanlation group that already has JP>EN translators.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 03:58 by:   fatman18    PM
Score +76
I TAKE IT BACK YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL WHY THE FUCK IS THE FILESIZE 680 FUCKING MB FOR 20 PAGES WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING
Posted on 16 May 2022, 05:42 by:   S-One    PM
Score -13
I'd say you're a troll, but I think you may just actually be retarded
Posted on 16 May 2022, 06:04 by:   Tatchy    PM
Score +68
@uploader In your last upload, I tried to be nice and explain that making good translations is a very time intensive skill that requires a lot of work, and that it was admirable that you had a lot of passion, but that like any artist, you had to get all the bad creations out of the way before you started making quality products that people want to look at.

But after reading your Ebony Dementia Darkness Raven Way level of writing in that 400 word run-on sentence with ZERO punctuation, it's pretty clear that this is either some deep level troll or that you are actually mentally ill. Dude. You aren't fluent in either Japanese OR English, but you want to make Japanese to English translations? This is some unironic "Graphic Design is my Passion." bullshit. Just stop. Please.

You ask people what they want you to do? They want you to delete these galleries so that actual translators won't skip these works assuming they've already been translated. Come back when you actually speak Japanese and can translate it into whatever your mother tongue is.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 07:48 by:   Cisla    PM
Score +34
translated or not the comment section is more entertaining than the original doujin
sasuga sadpanda
Posted on 16 May 2022, 08:03 by:   Xalren525    PM
Score +18
That uploader comment was unintentionally hilarious. Maybe take a break and do this stuff in your native language instead?
Posted on 16 May 2022, 09:53 by:   danielwain    PM
Score +25
MTL can be okay, if the person doing it has a grasp on the source material, the language they're translating to and the kinks of MTL. I'll take a well-edited MTL for fap material, let's not pretend h-doujins are holy texts or literary masterpieces that require a degree in Japanese, most of the time. Sure, proper translations are better and some will lament it being MTL because it totally won't ever get a proper translation after that, but most people won't really care, if it's good enough. This, however, is not. Lack of punctuation, spelling errors (to close, rather than too close etc.), very poorly constructed English sentences, words getting cut off without - to show it's one word in speech bubbles and completely random exclamations ("Yes don't stretch your shoulders good for-nothing") make this far from good enough. At least make it good enough outside of the translation itself and you'll get a lot less shit for it.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 10:14 by:   thekiller2413    PM
Score +37
This guy's grasp on the English language is so small that he thinks this is alright. He doesn't even have a clue. I'm not a native speaker and I think there's that point where you can mostly understand what you read but without any idea of nuance. Thank god I never posted any of my "translations" online.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 13:38 by:   UnGtx    PM
Score +27
This is amazing. I'm just here for the drama.
Posted on 16 May 2022, 17:53 by:   Daruna    PM
Score +30
since he's disowned both of his uploads, i will document them for future generations.

https://e-hentai.org/g/2159693/ba35c78f33/
https://e-hentai.org/g/2221638/de1458c924/

both uploaded by the user uploader (link)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800392749894467675/975817511448756295/unknown.png

lest we forget. shine on, you crazy schizoid.
Posted on 17 May 2022, 01:53 by:   Danieke    PM
Score -1
Do you know when Machine Translation works, sir? When a fucking translator post edit it.
Posted on 17 May 2022, 23:26 by:   Glovelove.    PM
Score +65
As someone who speaks multiple languages, I can confirm MTL isn't the root of all evil like some make it out to be. Still, you need to be familiar enough with the languages involved to know/suspect when the output is inaccurate. In this regard, Google Translate is superior to DeepL because you can see when it is struggling, if DeepL encounters problems it'll just give you back guesswork and pretend everything is fine. Japanese is also tough for MTL to deal with in general because it tends to rely heavily on context. It can be servicable if accuracy is not an issue because it's for insignificant personal use (like being curious about the Chinese comments on EH) or if you just need a memory aid but it really shouldn't be relied on to this extent.

I'll be putting this on my to-do list for a real translation but given that I'm currently on hiatus because I'm busy with other things and want to be better when I get back to translating instead of rusty, and my to-do list grows faster than I could ever hope to catch up to, I do hope someone will beat me to it.
Last edited on 18 May 2022, 15:37.
Posted on 19 May 2022, 17:49 by:   Firehawk526    PM
Score +6
Why can't we just have nice things? :c
Posted on 28 May 2022, 06:00 by:   kipchak    PM
Score +7
huge internet fight

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