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[Oshima Aki] NEET Onee-chan to Boku ~Seitsuu Mae kara Toshiue Itoko to Yari Makutteta Hanashi~ [English]

[大島あき] ニートお姉ちゃんと僕~精通前から年上イトコとヤリまくってた話~ [英訳]

Doujinshi
(Disowned)
Posted:2023-07-23 15:17
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Visible:Yes
Language:English  TR
File Size:90.63 MiB
Length:84 pages
Favorited:243 times
Rating:
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Average: 1.20

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Posted on 23 July 2023, 15:17
Uploader Comment
automatic english translation whith -- https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

translated from Spanish---- https://e-hentai.org/g/2207110/67e4004cb5/
Posted on 23 July 2023, 16:37 by:   score38    PM
Score +483
I wish there was a vote to remove machine translation option on here.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 17:01 by:   Noni    PM
Score +155
Well this one is quite bad. Dude, what machine is this that doesn't know English?

some random examples:
on p 2: "of all the modes, .." -> what's a mode? Then "today I'm something busy" -> "somewhat busy"
on p. 25: "although your penis is more small than..." -> "smaller"

Basically it's all rubbish.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 17:35 by:   Forgunia    PM
Score +44
Even the font is terrible. 🤢🤮
Posted on 23 July 2023, 18:08 by:   B4z73rd    PM
Score +55
Whyrruin a good artist's doujin? "Oh, it hasn't been translated to English yet? Welp, let me infuriate everyone on E-hentai.org with this crap I made a computer produce."

To qoute Jorgen von Strangle:
@uploader, don't do it again!
Posted on 23 July 2023, 18:41 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score +28
Repeat after me: "autotranslators are a tool, not a replacement for proper translation." This is god-awful! And the type font is horrendous too!
Edit to add: Just noticed on page 4 that, not only is this translated like shit, it's not even made from the raws but from what seems to be a spanish or italian translation. Yikes. There even seems to be russian on second half of the doujin...

Are the raws available anywhere? I don't speak japanese but at least I know how to do proper translation work and use the tools the right way. Heck, even a good translation in another language will do!
Last edited on 23 July 2023, 19:02.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 19:01 by:   B4z73rd    PM
Score +9
@SirTwenty7, the raws are up on the site.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 19:12 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -28
@B4z73rd, where? Can't find them when looking in the artist's tagged galleries.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 19:35 by:   Moof22    PM
Score +17
@score38

Alternatively there should be a tag for it so people can blacklist them if desired.
But trying to get a tag made that would make sense to have is like pulling teeth on this site sometimes.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 20:15 by:   kaze343    PM
Score +12
raw because op didnt feel the need to post.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1909465/3989fecfe4/
as a bonus, textless as well
https://e-hentai.org/g/1981487/d4415b36d4/
@sirtwenty, just checked and both are still up.
Man, i had way too much faith in people. Didnt think it was possible to not know the difference between E and EX at this point in time.
Last edited on 24 July 2023, 11:56.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 20:53 by:   b51de    PM
Score +23
This can't be anything but a troll release that should be answered with an IP ban.
Posted on 23 July 2023, 21:29 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -15
@kaze343 the galleries you linked have been removed
Posted on 23 July 2023, 22:42 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +86
@SirTwenty7
>Are the raws available anywhere? I don't speak japanese but at least I know how to do proper translation work and use the tools the right way. Heck, even a good translation in another language will do!
Please don't do anymore fucking damage to the doujin, it's suffered enough. It doesn't need a "good" MTL (no such thing) or another MTL game of telephone from another language.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 00:19 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -100
@Scumbini So you're that kind of person uh? Say what you want but I'm currently working on it using both spanish and russian releases which are both quite good quality, and it's looking pretty good so far.

If you had any kind of knowledge about translation, you'd know that context and interpretation are essential to make a proper translation, actually much more than being fluent in the source language.
I'm French, working in translation studies. I'm fluent in English, and thanks to my native language being heavily latin-based + remanents of my high-school classes, I have rudiments of Spanish. As for MTL, believe it or not, Google Translate is doing a surprisingly good job with both Spanish and Russian, if you're not dumb enough to trust it blindly and translate everything literally.

What really hurt this comic is the uploader was too lazy to type the words in the translator so he uploaded the pages into it instead. And since it's a rather recent feature and that comics/doujin text format and fonts aren't the most straightforward, the machine fucked up a lot. Oh and that's also why the font on this comic is ugly and uneven. That's how Google TL renders it.
Last edited on 24 July 2023, 01:05.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 00:38 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +170
@SirTwenty7

Ha ha, funny. I wonder, how long have you been active in scanlation?

https://e-hentai.org/uploader/SirTwenty7
https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=comment%3ASirTwenty7

Ah, that makes sense.

Yes, context and interpretation are very important. So is knowing the fucking source language.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 00:47 by:   Mr_Person    PM
Score -100
@SirTwenty7

dont listen to the haters like scum-weenie over there, machine translations are just as accurate if not MORE accurate than "human" translations. these guys are just in denial cuz they know AI is going to drive them out of business. im really looking forward to your AI/Human hybrid translation! thank you so much for proving these bullies wrong!
Posted on 24 July 2023, 00:54 by:   dfgghgf    PM
Score +7
@SirTwenty7 The raws linked above aren't removed, they're tagged shotacon so if you're browsing on e-hentai you won't be able to see them.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 01:40 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -100
Lmfao because now, amateure translation on a hentai site has more credit than studies in the actual fucking field xD. Not to mention you have no idea why there's nothing in my uploads, but eh, apparently you seem to like running your mouth about things you have no clue about so I'm not really surprised.

Anyway, maybe it's my first full blown scanlation, and maybe I'm doing it from a language I'm not fluent in, but at least I'm trying to provide a readable english translation of this doujin because, breaking news, there isn't any other for now! That's a few magnitudes more than can be said about you. I never claimed it was gonna be perfect, but it can't actually be worse than what we have at the moment. Seriously, imagine having someone offer to work their ass off doing something for free and still manage to bitch about it. Choosing beggar much? Do it yourself if you're not happy, or wait forever until someone releases a "proper" translation, if it ever happens :')

That said, thank you to people like Mr_Person supporting my efforts. I'll keep you guys updated as I make my way through the doujin. Currently page 11.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 01:59 by:   Mr_Person    PM
Score -23
@SirTwenty7

god bless u sir
Posted on 24 July 2023, 02:32 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +87
@SirTwenty7
You're gonna "translate" something from a language you don't speak or understand? Can't wait to slap the "rough translation" tag on that bad boy. Very unfortunate for Oshima Aki fans, though.

The fact that you think MTL (and especially Google translate) is in any way reliable is laughable. It's especially egregious for contextual languages like Japanese, but that's not something you'd know. Or understand.

Also hilarious that you think you know anything about translation because you're "studying" it in university. How old are you again? What's your experience translating Japanese to English? Oh, right.

>Do it yourself if you're not happy
You know what, maybe I will.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 02:32 by:   theamdrag    PM
Score +64
@SirTwenty7
Dawg, you can't even spell average English words correctly. Why TF you gonna translate? "Amateur", "remnant" is what you should have used instead of "remanents", as "remnant" is a noun while "remanent" is an adjective.

I got my bachelor's degree in English, I studied Japanese and translation from Japanese to English in Japan, and I can tell you now, your work is gonna be just as bad as this because you're playing telephone and don't know the original language and make dumb mistakes in the target language. "If you had any kind of knowledge about translation, you'd know that context and interpretation are essential to make a proper translation, actually much more than being fluent in the source language.". What you described is a visually-based original writing, not a translation. How TF do you think that skill in a language is not important when TRANSLATING the language?

PLUS, you don't even know about the panda. GTFO when you can't even get over that basic hurdle of the community.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 02:55 by:   krmit1    PM
Score +6
damn, ive been waiting to see this one tl'ed since it first came out. what a disappointment.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 09:36 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -100
Waw, made spelling mistakes on words that are transparent between my native language and English, at 5 AM in the comment section of a goddamn hentai site. How incompetent of me. Jeez do you hear yourself or...?

"Your work is gonna be just as bad" Current translation is literally broken english with some words not even translated but yeah sure whatever.
"Can't wait to slap the rough translation tag" As if that's supposed to be humiliating or something. You think I care that much? There's no proper translation released yet so I'm just doing this to help in the meantime. If someone publishes a proper translation before I'm done, I won't even bother finishing mine. It's not that deep.

And going for age now? Seriously? If you really wanna stoop that low, all I see is a bunch of old-timers getting way too invested in patronizing a random person kindly offering to help, over a fucking hentai dounjin translation.
This isn't some novel's professional translation we're talking about. What matters is that the damn thing is readable, and for this, MTL tools are reliable enough given you know how to use them.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 13:19 by:   BonjoHiggins    PM
Score +6
fwiw this has already been translated by FuDeORS.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 16:27 by:   cutegyaru    PM
Score +55
@SirTwenty7
Oh, I know you don't care. You made that pretty obvious.

>kindly offering to help
You're not offering help. You don't speak the language. You can't translate.

>What matters is that the damn thing is readable
What matters is that the translation is accurate. That's the fundamental idea behind translations. They didn't teach you that in Translation 101?

>MTL tools are reliable enough given you know how to use them.
You don't know that, because, again, you don't fucking understand or speak Japanese. How could you POSSIBLY know that the output accurate? Again, MTL sucks for Japanese anyway.

I've seen so many other people like you assume the exact same thing and fall flat on their faces. Idk what's so hard to understand here.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 22:10 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -52
Aight, I said I'd update y'all as I make progress so here goes.

- Started yesterday 25/07 and made it to page 11
- As of now I reached page 26.
Posted on 24 July 2023, 23:40 by:   Scumbini    PM
Score +64
>If someone publishes a proper translation before I'm done, I won't even bother finishing mine.

>fwiw this has already been translated by FuDeORS.

>Aight, I said I'd update y'all as I make progress so here goes.

Hmm, what did he mean by this?
Posted on 25 July 2023, 00:57 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -36
@Scumbini. Well, I looked it up, but as far as I'm aware, it's not on this site, and I couldn't find it for free anywhere else. It's available on FuDeORS's website but locked behind a paywall.

So unless someone here is willing to pay for it and upload it here, (Which the translator might not be okay with), or someone else releases a free translation on here, I'll keep going. Made it to page 30 for now. Given how tedious it is and since it's really just tinkering, I'd gladly give it up if anyone has something better readily available.

So if anyone here has a link to a free to use translation that can be uploaded here, go ahead, I'll be grateful.
Until then, it's either this or waiting for ages until something better than this garbage comes out, so I made my decision.
Posted on 25 July 2023, 10:14 by:   ResonateLife    PM
Score +44
i usually think people who bitch and cry about MTL are just crying to cry, but man is this one of the worst TLs ive ever seen.
Posted on 26 July 2023, 14:06 by:   kidousenshi    PM
Score +13
I've been following Oshima Aki's for a long while, this is so depressing. I though this was an actual translation when I first saw it until I saw the cover image...
I edited the textless version of this and uploaded it here in case it got a proper translation, just to help out. Now I feel like this work will be completely forgotten about. Such a fucking shame.
If someone ever picks this up, awesome! If not, I'll add this too my pile of work that needs to be fixed and commission a proper translation.
I can't tell you how many artists/work fall under MTL that I enjoy, it's not even funny any more.
Posted on 26 July 2023, 15:36 by:   SirTwenty7    PM
Score -37
@Kidousenshi
I'm currently working on it (even tho some people are bitching about it). Of course it won't be perfect, but it can't be any worse than this pile of utter garbage here. I'm already halfway there.
Update: Currently at page 74. Almost there!

Oh by the way I finally found my way to the "fjords" some people were talking about when I asked where I could find the raws. Sure took some *ex*ploring to get there as there was *no* way to just *dash* in, but I figured it out eventually.
Last edited on 27 July 2023, 00:23.
Posted on 31 July 2023, 11:30 by:   TheOne320    PM
Score +6
"English"
Posted on 10 August 2023, 14:16 by:   drmagma    PM
Score +6
FYI, here's the uncensored, translated version on Fakku
https://www.fakku.net/hentai/together-with-my-neet-cousin-english

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