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[Yuzuki N Dash] Zutto Suki Datta Ch. 6 (COMIC Mugen Tensei 2016-08) [English] [TripleSevenScans]

[柚木N'] ずっと好きだった 第6話 (COMIC 夢幻転生 2016年8月号) [英訳]

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Posted:2016-09-18 16:15
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File Size:28.90 MiB
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Posted on 18 September 2016, 16:15 by:   CEDR777    PM
Uploader Comment
Read other SFW and NSFW releases at our website:
http://triplesevenscans.com/

Translation: cedr777
Cleaning: cedr777
Typesetting: Rudy Omega

RAWs provided by: Mikocon.com

Commissioned by: Hentai2Read.com & HentaiHere.com

9/19/16

update: added missing page 20.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 11:21 by:   Hakrei    PM
Score +43
So many conflicts going on at once... Love how Yuzuki N Dash weaves such a story despite the NTR..
Thanks for sharing!
Posted on 04 September 2016, 12:37 by:   nusmas    PM
Score +35
Thanks for the new Yuzuki N chapter.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 12:53 by:   xkillo777    PM
Score +48
What a cliffhanger. Thanks for translating this.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 13:11 by:   Stark1ller    PM
Score +87
^You have a valid point but this particular series was in some sort of a hiatus (around 1.5 years between Chapters 4 to 5), so in this case it was better to continue translating the magazine scans rather than wait for the tankoubon (which will probably be additional months to years) and people love to get these story arcs over with.

I'm not that knowledgeable about the state of the scanlation scene, but it's kinda obvious that there's not enough scanlators for a lot of h-manga coming out so you gotta stick with and appreciate the good translations that you get.
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Posted on 04 September 2016, 14:09 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +58
I'll save trouble for you guys, if you remember chapter 1 she thinks he is going out with her friend; Setsuna didn't even bother hearing Gin's answer to Tomoe's confession nor asked about it, she just assumed he accepted.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 14:41 by:   vivendicrust    PM
Score -100
@Stark1ller: I totally understand a translator having done a story arc already and it's too late to go back on that decision.

My point is not that. My point is that they shouldn't make that decision to begin with. We have limited resource in this scene, so every bit of it should go unwasted. Impatience, in my opinion, is not a good enough reason to outweigh the resource allocation priority. Quenching some people's impatience is quite a short-term goal, to be totally honest.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 15:55 by:   CEDR777    PM
Score +66
"there's not enough scanlators for a lot of h-manga coming out so you gotta stick with and appreciate the good translations that you get."

AH, FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO APPRECIATES THE THING THAT WE DO =)
Posted on 04 September 2016, 16:16 by:   Darktaka    PM
Score -100
Well it ends next chapter that should say something about this. Oh well I hope Yuzuki comes back with a good story again incest are always his best..
Posted on 04 September 2016, 16:26 by:   vivendicrust    PM
Score -31
@CEDR777: Please don't misunderstand that I have any resentment toward you. Translators do great work. That's true.

What's also true at the same time is there are ways you can do better. Is that an acceptable thing to say or are "You are doing great" and "You can still do better" mutually exclusive statements and only one statement out of 2 can be true at any given time? I sincerely hope "You are already doing good enough, don't bother improving" is not the only acceptable opinion here.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 17:49 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
Score -31
Yuzuki N Dash is one of my fav hentai artist/writer. The sex scenes are hot but to be honest If the chapter one ending prevail it would be out of nowhere… Let me put my input on why I not gonna like the ending (chapter 1) and let’s compare works from her and others from different Mangaka that have a Happyish ending for both protagonists.

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*Spoilers*

Shiibasan no Ura no Kao The guy supported physically & emotionally the girl even though she was not into him showing her the true meaning of love… at the end she moved on from her lover and told the MC that she didn’t love him yet but she was willing to give him a chance and you can tell by the last page she was the one who was paying attention to him reversing the roles thus making a happy end for both…

[Inue Shinsuke] Rindou (Junjou Renka) Rindou is about a girl of pure of heart and slutty of body, raised like a pure maiden but taught her holy duty was to have sex with men of power to purify their souls and protect the Nation. The young man, who knew nothing of it (MC), they start talking... topic: the outside world and fall in love…

[Akino Sora] Egao o Sakasete In here the girl fought with all her strength and when the NTR guy got a response from her when (she was thinking about his loved one) it give the chance for the MC to save her, the guy got multiples times to save her which he did...

[Cuvie] Shitai Kara Suru no - Melt

[Miyabi] Watashi no Suki na Oji-san x Ore no Suki na Iede Shoujo Ge
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In my opinion I prefer a bad end for the Childhood male friend not because she screwed another guy but because she never trusted him (never told her about her problems not even a hint) the guy who let her overcome the fear of water… he is his friend.

What I’m trying to say is we didn’t see anything to indicated this turn of event by the end of the story (granted there is one more chapter) yes we got a glimpse as why she fell in love with him (the fear of water) but them it was all her and sensei story wise aside from chapter 1.

I didn’t get the chance to see the CF interact with her and vice versa since the incident started aside from that hand slap when she was playing with him (from chapter 2) in that same chapter the other girl got a panel indicating that she was aware of Heroine unusual behavior but it never touch upon it (why didn’t Mangaka-san didn’t draw her struggling with swimming to trigger an alert/concern with friends and sow her falling apart in her school, house & social skills to develop more the story?) and because of that I didn’t get to see the CF rescuing her from the abys that she was drowning, represented by carnal pleasure (sex with sensei) heck the dude didn’t have a chance to fight for her via physical force (fist fight), help/involvement or loving her more but neither their friend Tomoe (the girl that hugged her at the graduation, the one that always showed concern) have a chance to rescue her furthermore she didn’t show signs that she wanted to be saved aside from a few panels key word few, making dinner for sensei going in dates, etc. and only thinking of Gin-chan in a selfish kind of way “If I become his bride” please girl you give all of your first to sensei (kiss, blowjob, piazuri, anal & dates) reverse the roles would you like if him gives all off his first to Tomoe?! Heck, hearing Tomoe confess to Gin-chan was a big shock (the thing that she didn’t do) by the way chapter one goes she didn’t have the guts to hear his answer plus she stopped spending time with him (defeating the purpose for the blackmail in the first place)…

What I’m trying to say is that we got shallow characters and aside from the girl having hot sex scenes, I as a reader didn’t feel the connection between characters and the story to me felt like a one shot instead of a story arc type (maybe the hiatus is to blame). That is why she choosing his childhood friend doesn’t make sense by what it was shown to me through the story (I didn’t see a valid reason for her to choose his friend [Purification trough love]) to warrant an ending gong what we are show in chapter one. I’m judging it because the writer Yuzuki is always excellent when it comes to storytelling… whether you like the content of her stories o not that is another topic but this one to me this one was a disappointment.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 18:45 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score -100
@Ooe Kintarou
Yuzuki's dark stories usually are like this, oversimplified to the point it kills any suspension of desbelief, just see Another World for example where the heroine was mentally challenged to the point the bad guy was baffled at her dumb behaviour and had to kick her out as he couldn't keep up with her idiocy anymore; and somehow ZSD heroine has managed to be as dumb.
Btw, the oldman from Shiba-san was her blood related father. And in all of them the bad guys get away without punishment.

Ah, and I disagree with you about Gin deserving a bad end, if anything the one who has really "worked" for a bad end is Setsuna not him, others said this before that it would be better if Gin moved on with a better girl(Tomoe) but alas the story has to be like this for drama ending.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 19:08 by:   vnk    PM
Score +15
I think the "nice style" part refers to her figure, not actual "style".
Posted on 04 September 2016, 19:16 by:   cerbiruz    PM
Score +26
i think some page is missing [page 20]
Posted on 04 September 2016, 19:23 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +37
@cerbiruz
Yes, it's missing this one:
https://e-hentai.org/s/3cf472e144/970481-156
In both this gallery and TripleSeven's website.

I've PM'd him, hope he notices it as well.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 19:41 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
Score +21
@Wilfriback

Hello, Wilfriback!

Yes, I knew that in Shiba-san he was his father... my point was that Yuzuki in less chapters established a more cohesive story than this one. going by my premise that this is going to be a happy ending conclusion for the story....

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Now understanding this genre...

I truly don’t care about the genre I read all of them. what I’m trying to say is what the story is presenting me (story telling)…

Not matter what the Heroine is going to have a good end (not always but the majority of times)…
One - Heroine is with sensei being complemented for being cute and him treating her as a girl/woman satisfying her lust…
Two - She is going with a good guy (Gin) and the love of her life…??? to start a new life...

In my opinion this kind of stories doesn’t have a truly happy end… I call them bittersweet/happyish (a happy end doesn’t erase the past) even if the protagonist is ready to start a new life/move on... When I said Him deserve a bad end is because if he gets a happy end he is going to be with a girl that not only didn’t trust him (seeking his help) but a girl that (what is presented by this story) didn’t think of him aside for what 3 or 4 panels through the whole story… not using his love….??? for him to try to be stronger or resist the temptation. Chapter 4 & 5 showed her drowning seeking a hand for help but in the context of this story she didn’t really seek it. A bad end for the childhood friend would mean Gin is eventually going to move forward with his life…

If things stand as it is… Yuzuki didn’t provide me with a strong case to justify me (as a reader) why she is going to dump sensei over his childhood friend (aside for a vague flashback and the first chapter) to me that isn’t enough to warrant me a happy end. Unless these chapters (2-7)/flashbacks… is her telling him what happened (being open and truthful to him = being truthfully regretful of thing of the past) I would have preferred the usual NTR route of Childhood friends losing his love one…
Posted on 04 September 2016, 20:04 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score -12
@Ooe Kintarou
"Two - She is going with a good guy (Gin) and the love of her life…??? to start a new life..."
This literally is every Yuzuki's Ending for dark stories.

You're free to call it how you see it fit, to me it would be "Bittersweet climax that leaves the path open for a Happy End" .
Also, rewrite your sentences, I find difficult to figure who you're talking about when you switch from Him(Gin? Teacher?) to Childhood Friend(Gin? Setsuna?), etc so I can't tell for who you meant happy or bad end for.

Do you need a strong reason for her to leave the teacher when said guy blackmailed her for the dumbest thing ever? No, you really don't. Their relationship is purely based on a weak blackmail and her being stupid there is no real bond between them besides sex partners and no, she thinks often of Gin but never acts on that. The teacher could be married or he just got a new "toy" or simply didn't want her beyond using her as a sex friend (something he said already) or her growing a backbone at the graduation or her overhearing that Gin and Tomoe never dated as she thought. Many reasons and all of them stronger than the blackmail that started this.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 20:30 by:   Darktaka    PM
Score -31
@Will bro don't even try to explain it to this guy he clearly doesn't understand it like we do. I agree with you 100% this girl should not get a good ending because she is stupid but idc good thing this is ending next time we spent like what almost 2 years for this? and it was like what i expected not Yuzuki's best work imo.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 20:52 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
Score +14
@Wilfriback

English is not my native language, so I’m learning every day...

I don’t disagree with your statement of Bittersweet climax that leaves the path open for a Happy End and the "Do you need a strong reason for her to leave the teacher when said guy blackmailed her for the dumbest thing ever? No, you really don't. Their relationship is purely based on a weak blackmail and her being stupid there is no real bond between them besides sex partners and no, she thinks often of Gin but never acts on that. The teacher could be married or he just got a new "toy" or simply didn't want her beyond using her as a sex friend (something he said already) or her growing a backbone at the graduation or her overhearing that Gin and Tomoe never dated as she thought. Many reasons and all of them stronger than the blackmail that started this."

I get all of that but what I’m trying to say is that others work of her and others mangaka had made a better presentation of the "Bittersweet climax that leaves the path open for a Happy End" in my opinion.

@Darktaka
This is the most ignorant post, and I see sh*t like it all the time. The thing that I don’t understand is why we have to be devise we all the same community here (Hentai lover) He doesn’t need to explain nothing to me is my opinion... I replied to him/her because he/she took the initiative to reply to my comment even though he/she doesn’t share the same opinion as me and I respect that... that is why I want to hear/read his/her opinion on the matter.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 21:12 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +22
Guys, no need to fight over a problem of language and opinions, keep calm and discuss it in peace.
Posted on 04 September 2016, 21:43 by:   ShikiN7    PM
Score -40
I really dont know why Yuauki continued this boring story for so long! It honestly irritates me, cuz it's not a good story at all. It fails as an ntr story, it fails as a happy end one, and even fails as a dramatic one.

Why couldnt Yuzuki just stick to the more interesting and hot ones like Imouto lip! It only had 2 chapters, come on!
Posted on 04 September 2016, 22:17 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +22
@ShikiN7
Usually, the direction a story takes on a magazine is heavily influenced by the editor in charge.

@webspider
;_;
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Posted on 04 September 2016, 22:28 by:   webspider    PM
Score +18
Sometimes I wonder whether it's the heroine getting her mind broken or us readers...
Posted on 05 September 2016, 01:18 by:   vivendicrust    PM
Score -25
@Wilfriback: Upvoted. I seem to have been fought back viciously despite coming in without any combative tone, going by the comment score. People seem to think I hate translators, I don't appreciate their effort and I am talking about this series in particular or something. I will continue deny any of those intentions, as I have stated explicitly already. Translators do great work. Full stop. No objection or argument there. The debatable matter is whether they can optimize their priorities even further. The popular opinion here seems to be "Nope. What translators are doing is already pitch-perfect, there's no possible way to improve.". There's no shame in holding that viewpoint, of course, but the only direct confrontation to my point about optimizing resource allocation has been "You have a valid point". If I am stupid and I am wrong, then nobody has yet to demonstrate why.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 01:36 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +22
@vivendicrust
Eh? I was talking about Ooe Kintarou's issues with English and his misunderstanding with Darktaka.

@Sorenangst
The only protagonist in this story is the girl not her crush.
Last edited on 05 September 2016, 03:21.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 02:05 by:   Sorenangst    PM
Score -35
This girl is a slut, when a person is forced to take an inauthentic existence, make choices that she doesn't want to, she feels the malaise of hopelessness. She felt anger and resentment teacher by forcing her to do something she does not like. As happened to thousands of Asian sex slaves during World War II, none of them liked suffer abuse and keep resentment against Japan.
Not in no time shows a psychological suffering of desperation for being forced to make choices that she doesn't want to do, being the sex with the teacher something unpleasant. If she didn't like the sexual assault, the her psychological turn the sex into something uncomfortable and painful.
She's just a bitch who loved for the first rapist that appear.
The protagonist even being weaker physically, he can win in a fight the teacher if use of surprise and deception. Just he ambush for the teacher or attack the professor while having sex. Just slap the teacher from behind with a pipe iron or stab him.

The best hentai NTR with a happy ending is Itazura Senyou Hanahira Seitokaichou by Inomaru
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Posted on 05 September 2016, 03:48 by:   Asarta    PM
Score +14
Right so we moved into rape and I come over make you dinner part........
Posted on 05 September 2016, 03:49 by:   climacus    PM
Score -28
The great flaw of this hentai is not giving a greater focus on the relationship between the characters in their different perspectives to give a greater depth in the story. There is no interaction between the characters to develop their personalities.
There is no concrete reason for the betrayal, only the old cliche of the rape and blackmail. The ideal would be to use the concept of escapism. Escapism is mental diversion by means of entertainment or recreation, as an "escape" or dissociation from the perceived unpleasant, boring, arduous, scary, or mundane aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness.
The ideally, the girl after experiencing a painful situation with your friend, she sought to use the sex with the teacher as a way out of painful situations. There would be no love, just pursuit of pleasure and escape from reality.
In Code Geass, Lelouch wanted to use the sex with kallen to forget problems and feel good and Misato in Neon Genesis Evangelion used sex to escape of the loneliness. Could the girl suffer teacher harassment, but the decline, after a fight with his friend that would be painful or she confess her love and he refuses, she could use sex to escape from problems.
It would be more realistic if the rape did not happen, but the sex was voluntary and intended to escape from reality and of the suffering.

The solution to unite the girl and his friend would be she begin to experience the feeling of guilt for what you're doing and want to get closer to his friend as she did in Chapter 01. Regret is an emotion that can be strong and win of the pleasure
Could the next chapter be a flashback with the girl remembering his past with the boy, his chest begins to hurt and she feels remorse for being involved with the teacher and decide at graduation if approach of the guy.The remorse and guilty may cause the protagonist wishes to change his attitude, she thinks I did something wrong, it would be to stay away from his friend and surrender himself in lust with your professor, just that she likes her friend and want to approach him.
In anime Death parade, the Machiko betrayed her husband Takashi and had remorse that is why.

In Another World Rei-Chan breaks with ASakura and returns to the Ryuuta and felt remorse because she knows that Ryuuta is the only one who really love and care for her independent of everything.
Words of the Rei-Chan: “Ryuuta-kun’s such a kind person…
He really loves and cares about me.”
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Posted on 05 September 2016, 08:09 by:   tangchaobo    PM
Score +31
@Ooe Kintarou

sadly in ch.7 she find she was pregnant before granduation and the teacher said if she pregnant they will get married better
in last page she going to hit Gin means story going to ch.1,the story is a circle,not be end in magezine maybe have another chapter in book sells at october

so its just a sad story at last,the child find who they loved then they have each family after just one sex

Gin was lucky there is another girl waiting for him,not so bad,maybe

毕业这么多年打英文有那么点吃力,不知道老外看不看得懂
说实话这个故事连载了三年就七话还喂屎喂的这么没技术含量(连载时间主要怪杂志),雪菜心态崩溃那里劳资差点笑出来了,完美刻画平成废物的心理承受能力?
银太完全没错,错全在雪菜和黑木身上,而且银太的备胎(桃萌)不管是相貌身材性格都不比雪菜差,忍了雪菜好几年,告白被拒绝还鼓励银太去跟雪菜告白,银太就老老实实去找都是好人的桃萌吧,留下两个性瘾傻逼爱咋咋地,18岁和四十代结婚就让他们结去呗,爹妈都是昭和栋梁,也别替伯父伯母担心了,从此是路人吧。单行本如果有后续别你妈画银太接盘了,任何接盘行为我都不接受,什么黑木死了银太接个带拖油瓶之类的盘有多远滚多远,母猪就认清自身定位好不好,母猪根本没获得幸福的权力,你爱你麻痹的银太,你给黑木舔鸡巴的时候想到过银太吗?
打了这么大一篇才发现老外更看不懂中文。。。
Posted on 05 September 2016, 08:42 by:   romanriquelme    PM
Score +1
The girl can go in an abortion clinic and withdraw the teacher's son and confess to Gin all the what happened and refuses to marry the teacher.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 09:16 by:   tangchaobo    PM
Score +12
@romanriquelme

dude u should know some asia mores

嫁鸡随鸡,means follow the man you marry,and she have Stockholm syndrome,she just have very bad sick even cant help herself
btw ch.1 is not the end,maybe the story going like ur hopes,maybe

at last,u dont know how sick the author is,the story will end very disgusting,just trust me

@Sorenangst

u should read Egao o Sakasete by akino sora,u will love this manga
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Posted on 05 September 2016, 09:38 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +22
@tangchaobo
Don't lie.What are you saying is just based in the previews posted so far.

Edit:
I put that in the other gallery, that's why I said that.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 09:45 by:   tangchaobo    PM
Score +12
@Wilfriback

the 9th magazine was published by Aug 4th
if u dont turst me u can wait for mikocon
Posted on 05 September 2016, 10:18 by:   BillNine10    PM
Score -2
@Wilfriback

Just ignore him, he's just your typical NTR hypocrite rager. Its just funny how he claims to know what "fails as an NTR story" when its clear what he is.

Though it is true that this artist's NTR stories do have higher chances of turning into a happy, bittersweet, or netori story. I think "happy" is kinda impossible at this point though, there's no way she ain't pregnant and have feelings for the teacher.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 10:18 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +28
@tangchaobo
Can't believe you're serious with the bait.

@BillNine10
You meant tangchaobo right? I know. Thanks anyway. Btw, Shiba-san made it seem to be a bad end on the last chapters but ended on a happy note.
Last edited on 05 September 2016, 12:19.
Posted on 05 September 2016, 10:38 by:   tangchaobo    PM
Score +20
@Wilfriback

well,u'll know im talking about truth in the end of Sep
Posted on 05 September 2016, 14:22 by:   yadua    PM
Score -23
This whole debate is laughable. I don't see a reason why it is continued. But since i decided to comment i'll also add a few cents.

Regarding the fact if this fails as ntr story or not, it's up to an individual by standards of e-hentai it is ntr, but it's a weak one if you ask me seeing as they are not in any relationship so if anything her childhood friend could see her whole sex-relationship with teacher as a relationship with teacher period.

Now if we are asking ourselves if she deserve a good ending. Well most of the girls in ntr doesn't deserve good ending. For the sake of story authors make them really dumb and story goes either

1. Girl is blackmailed with silly material (masturbating in own house, liking someone, peeing in the park, stealing something really insignificant from the shop)
2. Girl is raped and after whole affair she is blackmailed and instead of doing something she complies because somehow rapist is always better at sex than her partner and ofc has bigger junk, and funnily enough he has enough time in the world to fuck her while her partner like a normal guy spends his days at work.

With those kinda reasons you can't really take ntr seriously nor feel bad (or maybe i'm immune to this). Of course there are sometimes those rare ntr where girl is stolen by a guy who is infinitely better than her partner, not only in penis department but also in behaviour, that is he is nice, gentle, doesn't treat her like a garbage etc. Personally i read only a few of them but they are refreshing. Majority of ntr are the ones i gave example above, that is female heroine is dumb to such a degree that it stops me from fapping. The only saving grace of those are above average art.

For those who want to read a ntr where girl didn't deserve a good ending but got it, making it in the end a bittersweet ending. I advice you to read - When you let go of my hands by Takenoko Seijin
Posted on 05 September 2016, 15:29 by:   romanriquelme    PM
Score -29
@ tangchaobo

I will risk the theorizing this hentai.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other." One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.
The mechanism of insanity arises when an event extremely arduous and distressing to the individual reaches their threshold of tolerance and in response, your nature uses madness as "last resort" to cease these pains. So "the tortured spirit breaks, so to speak, the wire of your memory", allowing the individual rescue temporarily its integrity. This amnesia part of a conflict between the will and the intellect and, if any content is painful for the will, this prevents the conscious Intellect of such content. And the memory wire if fills the gaps left with fictions, looking for a refuge in dementia against the suffering that goes beyond your strength.
The girl began to fantasize about the facts, there would be no sexual abuse with the professor and that sexual intercourse would be consensus to ease her suffering her psychological. What would happen would be a distortion of the facts.
But I venture to say that she still doesn't have any feeling for the teacher, but only by the Gin-chan.
She feels a sense of unease by the alienation she lives .
The despair derived the alienation of self. The alienation of self is the shutdown of your existence. The alienated person is devoid of yourself, experience the desires, norms and thoughts of others, no one notices as you, but belonging to another thing or object.
The despair is manifested in varying degrees, the lowest of which is a result of ignorance, where the individual does not have the slightest awareness of the existence of each other. Later, when you have a certain self-awareness, the desperation happens when we have an aversion to that self. To work around this problem, we need to meet with what truly are instead of trying to be another, that enables us to develop peace and inner harmony.
Even with the sexual assault and the Stockholm syndrome, every alienation that she is submitted and moving away from your true-self, it was not destroyed, it continues to exist in consciousness and it generates a feeling of discomfort in her, because she is being forced to have desires, even though he had consensual sex with the teacher, I think she loves the Guy and want to be with him and that the uncomfortable because you can't help but like him.
The protagonist is uncomfortable when thinking of Gin-chan, just because she loves him and not the teacher.

I love doujinshi this author of fate zero, named Kyrie, shirley becomes involved with the norikata emiya that is why Kiritsugu kills his father.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 11:48 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +22
For those interested, go to the raws gallery for spoiler. All I can say is, the final chapter doesn't concludes the story. Not exactly as tangchaobo said but maybe due to his English. I bet you guys will feel author dropped the ball hard. So yeah, Chapter 1 is chronologically the last chapter.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 15:35 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
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@tangchaobo

So at the end we see the same scene from the chapter one where Shiraha hit Gin on the head/neck which brings the story full circle... Well that ending fits more with the story that I read and was shown... Poor Gin but like I said with this he knows he has the option to move on with his life...

When you said that Gin has another girl waiting for him (Tomoe) did she anywhere in the preview said that she is willing/going to wait for him?
Posted on 06 September 2016, 15:56 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@Ooe Kintarou
Yes, but given how first chapter went we're left hanging with no answer/conclusion. He can't move on when Setsuna as usual keeps her mouth shut.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 16:33 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
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@Wilfriback

"He can't move on when Setsuna as usual keeps her mouth shut." This is true...

What is preventing her for saying the truth?! (halting the inevitable, regret, sorrow, anger or she doesn’t want to let go of him now that she knows the truth) she already make a choice tell him that you have a lover and that you are starting a family with him...

I always want the authors to dig deep into the Psychological Aspects of the charactrs that they create. That is why I like to discuss whit fellow readers this kind of things...

Well take care and see you in the next chapter!
Posted on 06 September 2016, 16:51 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@Ooe Kintarou
She is a hetare heroine, that's why.

"see you in the next chapter!"
I wish there was but alas, it's over (though it might have some extra pages I'm not expecting a conclusion, maybe just some sex with teacher like in AW tank). It's underwhelming and didn't pay off waiting years but for some reason I don't feel nothing about it because I never had any high expectations on this story.Well, at least Yumi Ichiro did something amazing with his work that started the same year 2014. I liked it so much I ordered a physical copy that is likely to arrive in 1.5-2 weeks or 3 in the worst case.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 19:01 by:   tangchaobo    PM
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@Ooe Kintarou

hey dude
do u know about Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien?this manga's character as same as this game

and not in the preview,Tomoe told Gin go to tell Setsuna he love her just after Gin refuse her profession in ch.7
Setsuna even dont listen how Gin answered just go away,she just sure Gin will accept.then she begin to make distance with Gin and hope to get comfortable form have sex with teacher
then wat happend just like i told u
Tomoe is a very very very good girl and Gin just do nothing bad,i hope they will going be lover and get happiness

also i want tell u Setsuna is just a bitch,i dont know how to tell u this thing because my English is poor,but i can tell u her way of thinking is not logical,not because she is the heroine of netorare manga just because she is a bitch,think about why she told Gin to turn the light off in ch.1
Posted on 06 September 2016, 19:13 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@tangchaobo
Do you know what is said in the last pages?

About her being a bitch, she isn't. Look, the girl has quite the experience with sex so is she shy of showing him her current self but as shown so far her decisions have been product of her being a poor written character that accepts everything that happens to her.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 22:06 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
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@tangchaobo

Yeah... I saw Kimi ga Nozomu Eien...

About the English thingy don’t worry, I also have difficulties with the language... the thing that you don’t want to do is give up, keep practicing and little by little you are going to improve.

Take care!

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@Wilfriback

I know you are disappointed after waiting years for the conclusion but come on! there is chapter 7 comment section.... ヽ(〃^▽^〃)ノ

Well if you are talking about [Yumi Ichirou] Gokuakuzuma Kana 30-sai The tiwst there was brilliant in my humble opinion but the only grief for me was that the two criminals didn’t meet justice at the end of the story also her repentance (the wife) even though was done in one chapter felt somewhat real to me… going by our previous chat in this page that was a great example of "Bittersweet climax that leaves the path open for a Happy End" also Yumi Ichiro has a another manga (this one is an old one) that isn’t translated and I’m quite interested in the stories… the name of the manga is - [Yumi Ichiro] Junai Kanojo
Posted on 06 September 2016, 23:20 by:   climacus    PM
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The protagonist feels abandoned , feeling that there's no one she can trust and ask for help on the abuse of teacher and passed to accept the abuse thinking that there is no alternative, if conformable. The feeling of abandonment , of not having anyone who can help can make her accept your situation, same what don't you like. After her having sex with the guy, she knows she can trust in gin-chan because he loves her, not feeling more abandoned and she can resisting to teacher.
Posted on 06 September 2016, 23:51 by:   tangchaobo    PM
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@Wilfriback
which ch? 6?1?7?

in ch.4,Setsuna wearing cute underwear just after the teacher raped her and ask for more sex,and she dont want to sex in school because there is a lot memory with Gin then in ch.7,u know
in ch.6,she cooking for the teacher,dude do u know wat's this mean?
in ch.7,the teacher propose they should get marry if she is pregnant,she just acquiesce in the decision

and in ch.1,she accept Gin's love just be silence when she pregnant teacher's kid,and u say she just be shy so she want to turn the light off when they having sex?in last six month she sex with teacher time after time everywhere even don‘t know when she get pregnant.she just dont want Gin know she is not a virgin,she is a liar

in china we have a vulgarism:别用舔过别人鸡把的嘴说爱我,dont say love me if u just sucked other's cock,dude she just a bitch,badly,maybe she is a victim but with Stockholm syndrome,she had only herself to thank for her loss

@Ooe Kintarou

thx dude,have a nice day

@climacus

the teacher told she dont feel guilty because he did everything bad,just feel how comfortable in sex
then she trust who just raped her,wat a joke

and u r right she is a latchkey child,she parents just busy to take care of her
then she dont want talk with her best friend
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Posted on 07 September 2016, 00:10 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@tangchaobo
No, I just asked you what was said in the last pages if chapter 7.

BTW, I don't like defending character with retardation but here there was some justification:

C5, he told her to do it, and she complied because she is hetare, a beta/wimp. Don't forget he is a rapist but a control freak as well.
C6, that's typical Yamato Nadeshiko bullshit to show how much of a "good wife" material she is. She was thinking of Gin, not the teacher when cooking.
C7, and she did that why? Because she thought he was dating Tomoe and she wanted to forget about him with sex. The one who asked about marriage was her though and she wasn't very happy when she saw the pregnancy test, just a smile with empty eyes.

In C1, she didn't hide she wasn't virgin, but think about it, she was drown in guilt and shame after realizing all she did make an experienced sex partner of herself and all because of her own stupidity.
Yes, she has Stockholm but not saying anything is different from lying, albeit both are as bad.

What will she do about her pregnancy? Who knows, in real life she can go to a clinic as long she isn't on her third month, in the manga we'll never know.
Posted on 07 September 2016, 00:37 by:   tangchaobo    PM
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@Wilfriback

nothing,just call Gin with an onomatopoeic word when she hit him

and i know u like Setsuna and im poor in English,so just finish it ,i dont know how to tell u about the difference between Western and the East

also u are very optimism,that's good
Posted on 07 September 2016, 01:11 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@tangchaobo
Hell no, I don't like her either and clearly said Gin would be better moving on from her with Tomoe if possible, just read my posts above, my point is how Gin is in a bad spot only because of Setsuna who started a victim and became part of the problem making herself undeserving of Gin. And I know the difference if culture, thank you, that's why I brought up the Yamato Nadeshiko thing.
Posted on 07 September 2016, 01:33 by:   tangchaobo    PM
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@Wilfriback

u can going back to ch.1,at page 8,look at Gin's face,he maybe know wat happen to Setsuna
and there is another chapter in the book sells at Oct,that is the true end of this story

ch.6 is nothing about nadeshiko,the teacher mesns she is a good girl since she never attitude to a girl,just a tomboy,exactly Gin
nadeshiko just stand like peony,sit like tree peony,walk like lily,Setsuna is irrelevant
Posted on 07 September 2016, 01:53 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@ tangchaobo
About Gin. That's exactly what I said in the beginning, he acts like he knows something. Let's hope the tankoubon really gives a satisfactory end, because it was the same wtih Another World and a chapter 2.5, it gave the boyfriend's POV but never a solid conclusion.
Lets's stop about Setsuna, I think both we agree she is a worthless character.
Posted on 07 September 2016, 01:59 by:   climacus    PM
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The Setsuna had sexual relations with the teacher because he felt intimidated and did nothing to stop because he felt abandoned, with no one she can get help,she if felt alone.. At the end of Chapter 01 she's head down after having sex with the Gin, and can be interpreted as guilt, she realizes that he loves her and gets a look of guilt for having sexual relations with another man even against her will.
In Another World, Rei breaks with Asakura and returns to the Ryuuta and felt remorse because she knows that Ryuuta is the only one who really love and care for her independent of everything.
Setsuna kitchen to the teacher no because she loves him, but precisely because of obedience, because you feel intimidated by him, she is a woman and he could beat her if she if refused, but she is thinking about Gin, that's who she loves.
With declaration of Tomoe for the Gin, she thinking that the two are courtship,she uses sex as a form of escapism for his suffering, in no time she proved happy to have a teacher's son or marry him. She refused not possibly because you feel forlorn by creating a child alone or if I said I was going to abort and refusing to marry the teacher, he could beat her, she had no one by her side to offer help by encouraging her to break away from the teacher. With the Gin she can feel protected and can break with the professor.
In Another World, Ryuuta realizes that something is going wrong with the Rei, he then decides to stay with her and never leave her, which only increases the guilt she feels
Gin realizes that something happens with the Satsuna and so he decided to approach her.
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Posted on 07 September 2016, 02:59 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
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@climacus

I don’t disagree with your theory/point about she feeling scared... That is why I said why she didn’t seek the help of his friend and love interest Gin... If only Mangaka-san showed more of this via illustrating her scared more (the face she showed us in the beginning of chapter 4 a somber one) and like I said above in my others post comment of showing more interactions with her friends (Gin & Tomoe) and some of her Kohai from the swimming team to engrave her fear via doing poorly in her swimming (tying that to her drowning even more [By the way that is the theme that Yuzuki herself chose for this title] but to me it was too little or practically none existence... that is why I’m disappointed with the story...

The lack of fleshing out of characters was the most lacking one in my opinion for a Yuzuki work (Even if he is a supporting character {to me the only principal character is Setsuna} Sensei only appear when he is going to have sex with Setsuna, we don’t get to know how nasty he is, what are his real intentions? He truly loves her in his rotten way? or is he only doing this because he is the typical NTR villain? What I’m saying is aside of what he is doing physically we don’t know who he truly is aside of a scumbag…) (Tomoe one of her best friends and thus always watching Gin and Setsuna you are going to tell me that she only got a couple of panels dedicated to that her noticing Setsuna unusual behavior and in the other one she confronts her about Gin not knowing how she felt…) (Gin a guy who was to Setsuna what jelly is to peanut butter is not noticing how she isn’t spending time with the gang? Maybe it Is like Tangchaobo said maybe he knows but by the auhtor not showing more than that we also don’t know) Maybe we will get a Gin POV in the October release like Wilfriback said and maybe if that shows a more cohesive resolution to the story Bad or a Happyish one, I can live with that for all the time I put into this story…)
Posted on 07 September 2016, 03:50 by:   climacus    PM
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I believe Satsuna thought that not believe her, after all the teachers have a great status and prestige in Japan, so she choice was in silence. The teacher is the only one who doesn't bow to the Emperor in Japan, you realize the status they have. Satsuna'd think not Tomoe and even Gin believed her, Satsuna would find that neither Tomoe nor Gin believe her, Satsuna preferred silence and accepted the rape does not mean she liked it, but thought it would be useless to she react.
The sexual assault affected psychologically negative way being taken by desperation and anguish, the possibility of repeating something that she doesn't like the would be taken by fear, so she became withdrawn and possibly not see improvements in the future.
When Gin came and stood by her side, she can earn a new hope.
The teacher chose the Satsuna and not another girl or even a more experienced woman in sex, for the pleasure of the control, the Satsuna could be easier to bully than Tomoe for example that could react violently and don't accept the his control (that's a hypothesis). He doesn't want just sex, could get with other women, but only the control of someone, in other words will to power.
The error in history didn't have developed more the personality and psychological of the characters, alternating scenes of sex with the introspection and social interaction.
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Posted on 07 September 2016, 05:16 by:   Ooe Kintarou    PM
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@climacus

Yeah, I agree with all that you said about the control aspect, poor judgment of Setsuna (choosing to be silent) and status of a teacher in Japan also It coincide with others fellow user had said about she being dumb, etc. but the most important part of your comment to me is this: "The error in the story didn't have developed more the personality and psychological characters, alternating scenes of sex with the introspection and social interaction." The key here as you said is alternating sex scenes with introspection and social interaction of the characters in this story.
Posted on 07 September 2016, 05:31 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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Posted on 07 September 2016, 14:19 by:   yadua    PM
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@wilfriback
Well ending of Another did imply that she won't really forget the pleasure of anal sex, I mean that close up to her ass when she is wet there after her boyfriend confessed that he doesn't want to have anal if that means ruining their relationship. Beautiful act if you ask me but she wasn't worthy. I don't really like open endings, it feels like authors are afraid of giving a definite end and leave the rest of the job to readers/fans/doujinshi writers.
Posted on 07 September 2016, 15:50 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@yadua
She was all ready about doing it with her boyfriend after all.
Yet she forgot the most simple thing in the world? Asking her bf if he wanted it. Instead she went full retard and was humiliated after being trained as the cocksleeve from a siscon delinquent.
That's the end: she got crushed by the guilt. She will have to either tell her bf she wants anal sex or start training vaginal sex with him.
Posted on 18 September 2016, 19:26 by:   drtybird    PM
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*sigh* Do people even attempt to read the artists or publishers websites to get dates on tanks? The tank release is on 10/7, so if you want to continue releasing with gestapo censorship or wait less than a month for the less censored tank, be my guest. Also looks like there won't be any epilogue chapter.

https://twitter.com/yuzukin_/status/774184047085953024

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4887746261?ie=UTF8&redirect=true
Posted on 18 September 2016, 19:58 by:   Wilfriback    PM
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@drtybird
We already knew this, in fact I said that on the other gallery long ago.

Also, there will be a 4 pages sequel, see her website yuzukin.jp
それと書き下ろしの後日談が4ページ追加されておりますー
Posted on 19 September 2016, 22:22 by:   frozenater    PM
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haha, a typical story. Fell in love with a rapist in a meantime , thus happy ending. I've seen a story like that somewhere already, while I suppose it's better this way..
Posted on 20 September 2016, 15:30 by:   Wilfriback    PM
Score +30
@frozenater
She didn't though.
Posted on 04 November 2016, 10:11 by:   AtotehZ    PM
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@Wilfriback
Did you read the last chapter or something? As far as I know "Saishuuwa" means "Last episode of"
https://e-hentai.org/g/974095/18d61ded90/

Chronologically we don't get any further than page 24 of the chapter 1-3 release where she confesses that she always "LIKED" him too. Meaning that it might be too late.

The ending is open for interpretation that way.

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